All My Remington Rifles and Shotguns...

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The 700s still my second favorite action design, but i prefer the modified versions using more robust extractors, even the sliding ones like on a b-14, and side bolt releases.
Only the Browning A-bolt beats out the "700"s on my list of favorites.

The 597s my favorite .22 semi auto to date.

The 870s Wingmaster is my favorite pump shotgun, tho ive owned more 500s.
 
My grandfather was a Remington man. He grew up as the son of German immigrants to Wisconsin in the 1900's. He grew up in Peshtago, WI, dirt poor, but loved the outdoors.

He ran a trap line as a teen and young man in the 1930's with his Remington Speedmaster .22 Short as his companion. It was used to dispatch the critters in his traps and to shoot small game for food. He chose a firearm chambered in .22 Short, because it was the cheapest to buy ammo for, according to my dad.

Grandpa would ride the railroad to service his trap line and he had many colorful stories of the hobos he met while riding the rails, all while clutching a small canvas pack and his Remington.

I now own that rifle...

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His next firearm he purchased was a Remington shotgun patterned after the Browning A5 12ga. I also own that firearm...

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Funny how I never really warmed up to Remingtons. My dad was a Winchester man since nearly all his rifles were Model 70s. I owned a smattering of everything over the years, and the only Remington I bought was my R1 1911.
Hard to warm up to a 700 after you have used a model 70. I never really thought of Remingtons as bad guns just not my cup of tea.
 
The original 870 with the 2 3/4 inch chamber was the most user friendly shotgun to ever hit the market and it still is. I have never wanted a longer chamber. When I was 14 year old I could average 15 quail out of a box of shells. In the past many years I have taken enough Rio Grande turkeys to fill the back of a 3/4 ton truck not to mention the ducks and geese. I have two 870's today, a 12 and a lightweight 20, and couldn't do without one. A Remington 722 was my first rifle but it was of poor quality compared to a Model 70. Like 9x56MS said, after using a Model 70 I could never warm up to a 700. I hope they get the Remington ammunition business going again because I want to continue buying Remington brass and primers.

I really liked that video. The only down side was that it reminded me of how much I disliked the shiney Remington stock finish. I really liked seeing the three rifles at the range and all were wearing the Bausch & Lomb Balvar 8 scopes. The Balvar 8 was probably the most user friendly rifle scopes available back in the 1960 's and 1970's.
 
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Hard to warm up to a 700 after you have used a model 70. I never really thought of Remingtons as bad guns just not my cup of tea.
I own both a Pre-64 Winchester Model 70 and a new (2019) Remington 700 and the 700 will out shoot the 70 with ease. I like my model 70 a lot but the 700 action when done right will outshoot a 70 when both have has similar amounts of spit and polish by a gun smith. The 700 action is more symmetrical and stronger and just shoots.


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Factory 700 action and barrel (no gunsmithing done post factory) with a Timney 2-stage trigger shooting factory Barnes ammo at 200 yards. Not may Model 70's old or new do that out of the box.
 
Hard to warm up to a 700 after you have used a model 70. I never really thought of Remingtons as bad guns just not my cup of tea.

Wanted a "pre-'64", like JOC, but they were not in production at the time.

So I got a M700 BDL in .270 Win instead, and it was my prime hunting rifle for three decades.

... only to be replaced in the field by a FN/B M70 EW/SS, in the same chambering.


The 12 ga. 870 WM I purchased at Woolworth when I was 13, is still my prime field SG.

...along w/ an as new 20 ga. large receiver copy I picked up at a pawn shop along the way.


Throw in a M-581 .22 LR, that filled many a squirrel and rabbit pot, given to a buddy for his young son's first rifle.




GR
 
I am not exactly disagreeing here but the 700 was developed to be less expensive to manufacture than its predecessor, the 721/722 which was also itself a development to cut costs on the primary model before that. In other words, it was cheapened. It came out in 1962. Not coincidentally, an inexpensive model model made by Savage came out in 1958. The Model 110. I’m sure this had a little to do with the 700 being developed.

It also just so happened that not long after this, the US got involved in a war that led to the development of sniper programs in our military. The Remington 700 happened to be around at the time and happened to come out on top as a military sniper rifle. So goes the military. So goes firearms development.
I don't know what your point is. Cheaper or not, like the Chevy smallblock V8.. It exceeded all expectations. I am pretty sure that top shooters don't chose Remington and it's clones because they are cheaper or the military used a few for sniper rifles. You can hate Remington but don't be a hater of history. Way too many like that.
 
History is what has happened we can not change it to soothe our modern sensibilities. We can however change the future and our part in it .
 
I've got my Dad's Remington Model 11, 12 GA. full choke, that he swore by; the Browning A-5 patent. He used it to harvest deer, pheasant, ducks, rabbits, partridge, and anything edible at the time. I'll estimate he he shot well over 100,000 rounds thru it, as he consistently used it for turkey shoots back in the 50's and 60's, as well as trap shooting. BTW it was the only shotgun my Dad ever had, (other than an old Remington pump he owned back in the late 20's early 30's) and I've shot quite a few rounds thru it myself over the years. Myself, I've got a Remington Model 1100 I bought new back in about 1971, and still have it as well as 3 barrels for it. Incidentally it has had quite a few rounds thru it and has never failed me. Then in 1974 I purchased brand new, a Remington Model 700BDL Custom Deluxe, in .270 Winchester, other than sighting it in, and shooting a record Mule deer in the Yavapai County Sheriff's hunt, and several prong horn, all one shot kills, have never had a problem with it either. Regardless of the unsafe safety they claimed to have. I'm very sorry that Remington went by the wayside, however, with proper management, I'm sure they will be back before too long, as I've always liked the Remington rifles and shotguns.
 
I feel like somebody is going to scoop up the Remington name and produce some of the best 700's we have seen in 26 years. I hope they do it in the USA and more particularly in a place like Texas
 
The sincerest form of flattery is to copy. The 700 has been copied by many and will continue to do so. Remington may be down, but I wouldn't consider them out.

They were indeed copied a lot, however; the copies all put a real extractor on the bolt, and a real trigger on them. Some even put a real recoil lug on them. I’ve only got a few Remingtons, a 700, 600, 870, and 521-T. They all work fine but I like my Winchester’s, Browning’s, Rugers, Sakos, and CZ better.
 
Understand Pivot Dr. You are correct, many copied with great improvements. I have more emotional attachment to Remington. Grandmother who I never met (died before I was born) worked there during the war. My Grandfather and Uncle both worked at the Arms (as referred to locally). I have two 700's, one model 7, two Rollers, one 1903A3, and an 870. Like each and every one of them and wish the new company well.
 
They were indeed copied a lot, however; the copies all put a real extractor on the bolt, and a real trigger on them. Some even put a real recoil lug on them. I’ve only got a few Remingtons, a 700, 600, 870, and 521-T. They all work fine but I like my Winchester’s, Browning’s, Rugers, Sakos, and CZ better.

What I can't figger out is...

After ~ 35 years of shootin' and huntin', almost exclusively, w/ the M700 BDL/.270 Win. ...

... never an inadvertent discharge w/r/t the safety, or broken extractor/failure to extract.

In fact - once glass bedded, including a fore-end Bbl. pad, it has been a flawless MOA meat-gitter.


What have I been doin' wrong...?




GR
 
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