Question about Taylors

Howdy

I don't know what is happening these days, but when I talked to the gunsmith at Taylors a few years ago he said he opens all the boxes and checks them all out. If they are timed correctly he does not do anything to them, just cleans the packing grease off of them and puts them on the shelf. If they are not timed correctly he will take them apart and time them correctly.

Bear in mind, there is a big difference between 'tuning' a revolver, and just getting timed correctly. If Taylors was taking the time to take every revolver apart, deburr and file the rough spots off the lock parts, and tune the springs, you would be paying considerably more for their revolvers than any of the other importers. It takes time to do that work and time is money. The price would have to reflect that investment in time.

As far as I am aware, Taylors prices are pretty much in line with all the other importers.

I will say, Taylors is the only importer I am aware of that actually has a gunsmith on staff. I got some terrific service on an old 1858 Remington years ago when I sent it to be fitted for a cartridge conversion cylinder. I have always said I think the service one gets from Taylors is terrific and I always recommend them to any one who asks.

I have bought several handguns from Taylors over the last few years. They have an excellent gunsmithing service but they are functioning correctly but are not tuned. I sent all of mine to the OutlawKid to be tweaked.

Wonder if the Kid is still tweaking. ? I think if an outfit like Taylors tuned every gun to perfection, and had that reputation, that any increase in price would gladly be paid.

Taylor will "tune" any gun they sell -- as an option.
That tuning is exquisite, and worth every penny.
https://taylorsfirearms.com/taylor-tuned

MEHavey showed info on Taylor Tuned revolvers, so it appears Taylor's actually does tune revolvers
Sounds like the the OP has narrowed the question to whether or not ALL Taylor revolvers are tuned
Driftwood seems to have presented some information to indicate that not all Taylor revolvers are "tuned" vrs timed
Not sure what "out of the box" means but I'm interpreting the information here so far to indicate that you should be able to count on a Taylor's revolver to be properly timed and that there is an option to have it tuned as well.

I am a big fan of Taylors customer service, I've had many talks over the phone with the guy who runs the parts counter and they're always ready to help. I've backordered things and totally forgot about them only to have a pleasant phone call a month or two later telling me my parts are ready to ship if I still want them they will charge my card on file! That's what I call TOP NOTCH Customer service. While I can't vouch for their slick up service as I've always done that in my spare time, I can say I trust Taylors and co.

I just received a conversion cylinder for the Uberti 1858 NMA, for my Remington Revolving Carbine. It fit perfectly. The ratchet cuts on the back of the cylinder face are in the white. Would that indicate it was fitted to

whughett said:

I just received a conversion cylinder for the Uberti 1858 NMA, for my Remington Revolving Carbine. It fit perfectly. The ratchet cuts on the back of the cylinder face are in the white. Would that indicate it was fitted to

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Only if you sent your carbine in to have it fitted.

They are located about 2 hours from me . I called them once , because I thought about visiting the store for something to do and buy a revolver . I could buy the revolver cheaper at Midway , so I never went . They sent me a free tee shirt once for reporting terrible customer service from one of their preferred dealers . They are now out of business , I guess their customer service finally caught up with them . I have a Smoke Wagon Deluxe , I thought that they tuned the deluxe models .

noelf2 said:

Only if you sent your carbine in to have it fitted.

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Of course. Which I had not done. My point was that the ratchets were unblued and had obviously been machined or fitted “after” the manufacturing process. Perhaps Taylor’s had fit them to one of their in house Uberti 1858s.
I’ve a total of 6 conversion cylinders, this was the only one that the entire cylinder wasn’t blued, other than the two stainless for the ROA’s, and the only one from Taylor’s.
Cheers.

Howdy Again

Probably close to fifteen years ago, I don't really remember exactly when, I had a 45 Colt cartridge conversion cylinder fitted to my old EuroArms 1858 Remington that I bought new way back in 1975. At this time Taylors was the sole outlet for Ken Howell's conversion cylinders that he was selling under the R&D label.






At the time, there were two versions of this particular cylinder available, one for Uberti replicas and one for Pietta replicas. I don't recall the specific differences, but since my old Remmie was made by neither, it was actually made by Armi San Paolo, I did not know which cylinder to order. I called up Taylors and they said to send them the revolver and they would fit a cylinder to it.

Notice I said fit the cylinder to the revolver, not the other way around.

The gunsmith at Taylors told me he had taken a Pietta cylinder that had not yet had the cylinder locking slots cut into it. He had a fixture he placed my revolver on that would determine where the slots needed to be cut so the cylinder would fit my revolver. He also had to machine off a little bit from the front of the cylinder so it would fit into my revolver. Then he sent the modified cylinder out to be reblued, so the fresh cuts would be blued.

I will add that in addition to paying for the cylinder, the only thing I paid was to ship the revolver to Taylors. I did not pay a dime for the smithing work, and they sent my revolver back to me with my original percussion cylinder in place in the revolver and the conversion cylinder in a small box in the same package. That way, they were shipping an 'antique' revolver, and the extra cylinder was just 'parts'.

This kind of service is why I always recommend Taylors when anybody asks. I believe they will still perform this work with no charge for the smithing work. And since the cylinder was fitted to the revolver, instead of the other way around, the original percussion cylinder still fits into the revolver in case I want to fire it as a Cap & Ball revolver.

Here is a photo of my 45 Colt conversion cylinder. The blue on the ratchets is scratched from years of use, but if any metal was removed there, it was reblued.






Another photo showing the cap removed from the cylinder for loading.






A close up of the cylinder locking slots that were cut into the cylinder so it would fit my old Remmie.






The cartridge conversion cylinder on the left, the original Cap & Ball cylinder on the right.

A friend has a pair of Taylor SAAs.
They were Rugerized and otherwise adjusted at Taylor's. I have not seen a better single action.

Jackrabbit1957 said:

I do the tweaking, was curious about whether or not Taylors was actually tuning stuff for sale out of the box or simply timing them. Driftwood answered that question I think. Anyone else care to weigh in?

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I did buy a Taylor & Son's 1858 Remi but it was from Midway that I actually purchased it. I am certainly no expert but it does appear to be timed correctly at least. It seems to have a very smooth action all things considered. Maybe their touted reputation helped me decide that it has to be to a higher standard? I don't know. I just like it. Just my two cents.