Open top holsters SUCK. Flap holsters RULE. Convince me I'm wrong.

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In the bush, flap holsters are the way to go. For my 7.5" Super Redhawk I use a Mernickle horsehide flap. It was supposed to be a slight right hand cross draw so that I can reach it with either hand in case the bear has me down on the ground (I used to work 200 days a year in remote Canadian fly in bush/tundra, we see a lot of bears). He made it vertical but it's still OK on the left hip, I've moved my speed loaders and bear spray on to the right side of the rig.

For more normal sized guns, I use an old Uncle Mike's No. 3 with the detachable velcro flap with the snap closure. Works great for 4" revolvers, 5" pistols like G17, 1911, Tokarev and they stay clean.

Another option to keep your gun clean and dry is a vertical shoulder holster. I find the higher the gun is carried on my body, the drier it keeps in the bush. In rainy conditions I carry the SRH in an Uncle Mikes shoulder holster.

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geologist said:
In the bush, flap holsters are the way to go. For my 7.5" Super Redhawk I use a Mernickle horsehide flap. It was supposed to be a slight right hand cross draw so that I can reach it with either hand in case the bear has me down on the ground (I used to work 200 days a year in remote Canadian fly in bush/tundra, we see a lot of bears). He made it vertical but it's still OK on the left hip, I've moved my speed loaders and bear spray on to the right side of the rig.

For more normal sized guns, I use an old Uncle Mike's No. 3 with the detachable velcro flap with the snap closure. Works great for 4" revolvers, 5" pistols like G17, 1911, Tokarev and they stay clean.

Another option to keep your gun clean and dry is a vertical shoulder holster. I find the higher the gun is carried on my body, the drier it keeps in the bush. In rainy conditions I carry the SRH in an Uncle Mikes shoulder holster.

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Nice rig, nice gear. I like. I'd love to have a nice horse-hide holster. Maybe someday.
 
Jmr and Geologist, a long long time ago, I did carry my 7.5 RSB over my shoulder, way back when I never carried a pack. How did I get along without 20 pounds of survival "stuff"?? Anyhow, I'm not sure if there is a shoulder holster that would be comfortable with a pack. Another thing is that I like about a pistol belt, is that it also carries my canteen, so if I take off my pack I always have my pistol, water, and both rifle and pistol ammo. Here is the pack I packed the other day. Not sure if I could get a shoulder holster to work with it. With a little pistol for sure, but often I carry a .22 rifle, and then a big pistol.

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I was going to post that you should check out Uncle Mike’s flap holsters but it appears they aren’t offering them now. They can be found on EBay.
I use one for my S&W 327 Night Guard in the woods. Love having the flap to keep crap and rain out. I actually bought a holster for the Governor and it fits my 327 perfectly.
I wasn’t a big fan of flap holster until one hike in Oregon it started raining. Then I basically slid down a huge hill only to find that my gun was no longer in the open top holster when I reached bottom. I found it near the top where I fell.
I got the flap holster for my revolver shortly after that.
I plan to get a Simply Rugged flap holster and chest rig for my S&W model 25 .45 Colt 6.5” barrel in the next 3 months.
They also make them for other guns, like yours.
https://www.simplyrugged.com/ecommerce/search_results.cfm
 
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Dang. I found my Air Lite holster. In the last place I looked, and only because it was in a place I hadn't looked. Anyhow, picked this up in a surplus store for a couple bucks. Works perfect. Had to modify it a little to pull the flap down further, and make it a perfect fit/secure. Super slow, but not too worried about getting attacked by a wabbit, or grouse, or squirrel.
 
FL-NC said:
The only way I could convince you would involve a range with some steel targets, my stuff vs your stuff, and a pro timer. I don't carry guns that I worry about getting dirty or scratched up.
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I'm convinced that under those circumstances, you would win. Consider me convinced. However, timers and steel targets and range time is a different world than wilderness survival. Perhaps if we were both thrown into a survival situation, in foul weather, rough terrain, far into the mountains, you may be convinced that a flap holster is not the worst thing. :)

I'm not really worried about dirty or scratched up, rather a malfunction when a twig, small pebble, snow, or glob of pitch gets between the hammer and frame. I worry less with my bigger revolvers, but that Air Lite is a tiny little thing. :) I'm not sure it would tolerate much heavy dirt such as sand, or mud.
 
.308 Norma said:
You've heard about how to fend off a grizzly attack with a .22, haven't you? Shoot your backpacking partner in the leg or foot and quickly leave the area.;)
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That's true. I'll try that. Hopefully Grizz consumes the whole body, leaving nothing with a bullet hole in it. !! But dang it, I always trek/hunt/explore/woods-bum alone. Better start taking someone with me.
 
Great thread. I have one flap holster for a 4" S&W model 10. I keep saying I am going to buy another couple of leather sides and make at least one flap holster. I don't roam the woods much anymore. I will never go on a trek with Ugly Sauce and I regret that. I have no real need for a flap holster. They just look so FRIGGIN' COOL!!!

I have made several holsters but they are just simple beginner pouches. They work just like I paid a hundred bucks for them though and thats all that matters. And they are fun to make.
 
Ugly Sauce said:
Wow, I thought I was the only one who ever carried a Webley into the back-country. View attachment 1016745
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There’s at least three of us!

I really need to get on loading up some appropriate ammo in .45ACP cases. The silly conversion plate that lets me shoot .455 just is not going to cut it if a reload is needed.

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More on topic, open tops for concealment, flaps when out in the sticks. That said, if I have the Webley in the flap holster you better believe there’s something a little smaller hidden where it can be accessed very quickly. Just seems prudent.
 
RevolvingGarbage said:
There’s at least three of us!

I really need to get on loading up some appropriate ammo in .45ACP cases. The silly conversion plate that lets me shoot .455 just is not going to cut it if a reload is needed.

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More on topic, open tops for concealment, flaps when out in the sticks. That said, if I have the Webley in the flap holster you better believe there’s something a little smaller hidden where it can be accessed very quickly. Just seems prudent.
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Nice, another pretty Webley. Mine looks like the soldier beat the seventh German to death with it.
 
RevolvingGarbage said:
There’s at least three of us!

I really need to get on loading up some appropriate ammo in .45ACP cases. The silly conversion plate that lets me shoot .455 just is not going to cut it if a reload is needed.

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More on topic, open tops for concealment, flaps when out in the sticks. That said, if I have the Webley in the flap holster you better believe there’s something a little smaller hidden where it can be accessed very quickly. Just seems prudent.
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I found a bunch of cast replica Webley bullets at a gun show, and bought a whole bunch. I think they weigh 260-265, I forget. Saved me from buying a mold for them, which I'd still like to have. Anyhow, I load those in .45 Auto-Rim cases. They are more accurate, in my pistol, with my load, than the other bullets I have used, which are the 250 grain LRN from Midway, which I think is a Remington bullet, and a 256 grain SWC that I have a mold for. Those both work great, but the Webley clone bullet shoots a little more accurately. I usually load the gun with the Auto-Rim cases, but do carry some loads with the 256 grain SWC in ACP cases, and in full moon clips, just in case I ever needed a faster reload.

The Webley is a great woods-gun, in open top or flap holster. I'm not sure I'd try to shoot Grizz with it, but I think it would discourage a black bear fairly well, and of course would be fine on cougar or wolf. And two legged varmints. The CCI .45ACP shot loads kill grouse just fine and I assume would work okay on a squirrel up close, so the Webley is not a bad small game gun in a survival situation.

I have that same exact little pocket knife in your pic.
 
Ugly Sauce said:
I found a bunch of cast replica Webley bullets at a gun show, and bought a whole bunch. I think they weigh 260-265, I forget. Saved me from buying a mold for them, which I'd still like to have. Anyhow, I load those in .45 Auto-Rim cases. They are more accurate, in my pistol, with my load, than the other bullets I have used, which are the 250 grain LRN from Midway, which I think is a Remington bullet, and a 256 grain SWC that I have a mold for. Those both work great, but the Webley clone bullet shoots a little more accurately. I usually load the gun with the Auto-Rim cases, but do carry some loads with the 256 grain SWC in ACP cases, and in full moon clips, just in case I ever needed a faster reload.

The Webley is a great woods-gun, in open top or flap holster. I'm not sure I'd try to shoot Grizz with it, but I think it would discourage a black bear fairly well, and of course would be fine on cougar or wolf. And two legged varmints. The CCI .45ACP shot loads kill grouse just fine and I assume would work okay on a squirrel up close, so the Webley is not a bad small game gun in a survival situation.

I have that same exact little pocket knife in your pic.
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Thank you for the good info on the bullets! I will certainly need to do some scrounging as I’m not interested in playing games with .451/.452 projectiles that aren’t going to deliver on accuracy. If you become aware of a source for the bullets you lucked into, let me know!

Thats funny about the pocket knife. It’s a little small for practical utility but it’s a pretty little thing. I included it in that picture since it contrasted so perfectly with the Mk.VI
 
RevolvingGarbage said:
Thank you for the good info on the bullets! I will certainly need to do some scrounging as I’m not interested in playing games with .451/.452 projectiles that aren’t going to deliver on accuracy. If you become aware of a source for the bullets you lucked into, let me know!

Thats funny about the pocket knife. It’s a little small for practical utility but it’s a pretty little thing. I included it in that picture since it contrasted so perfectly with the Mk.VI
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Matt's Bullets sells an excellent Mk II clone for the 455 Webley and a good Mk I clone for the 38/200 Mk IV Webley's. (https://www.mattsbullets.com/index....ducts_id=298&zenid=vft3618dhhq83eltgvm92bimv0)
 
Good info, I didn't know anyone sold them commercially. Someone makes a mold for the Webley bullet, I don't think it's LEE, so might be a bit expensive. I got about 400 from some guy who cast them up and took them to the show, and paid less than even a LEE mold. That is a lifetime supply for me, as for most of my Webley shooting I just use the 256 SWC which I do have a mold for. Those shoot okay, and the 250 grain LRN is .454", but for sure when I head out to the woods she's loaded with the full size, heavy weight Webley bullet. And they look more cool than the SWC or .45 Colt bullet. :) In the Auto Rim case the cartridge looks pretty much like a real Webley round.
 
I use Matts Bullets 200 grain 38/200 bullets in my Enfield and British S&W Victory's. The early MK1 version. They shoot well and to POA.
 
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