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But this thread is about Colt haters not S&W haters...
Have You Known Many Colt Haters?
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GeoDudeFlorida
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Why are there so many gunsmiths familiar with working on Smith & Wesson revolvers?
Practice makes perfect.
Why are there so few gunsmiths familiar with working on Colt's revolvers?
All skills erode from lack of use.
Practice makes perfect.
Why are there so few gunsmiths familiar with working on Colt's revolvers?
All skills erode from lack of use.
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To be honest, most folks I know who like and own a few or more Colts are just fine with Smith & Wesson and compliment mine when I bring them out. Even old Big Ugly gets some compliments from the few people I work with who are die-hard Colt fans. But I get lectured regularly by Smith & Wesson fans who for some bizarre reason think their opinions should matter to me about my Colts. It's kind of a strange phenomenon and I'm willing to bet that somewhere, at some time, somebody has experienced the opposite.But this thread is about Colt haters not S&W haters...
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Why are there so many gunsmiths familiar with working on Smith & Wesson revolvers?
Practice makes perfect.
Why are there so few gunsmiths familiar with working on Colt's revolvers?
All skills erode from lack of use.
LMAO !
mcb
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I am a S&W fanboy and self-avowed Colt hater and I am OK with you holding an incorrect opinion of Colt.
Taurus revolvers are great too for the price, you just need three of them. The one you're shooting, the spare in your range bag, and one back at Taurus being fixed, rotate frequently.
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Well, bless your little heart! Isn't that just so magnanimous.I am a S&W fanboy and self-avowed Colt hater and I am OK with you holding an incorrect opinion of Colt.
Taurus revolvers are great too for the price, you just need three of them. The one you're shooting, the spare in your range bag, and one back at Taurus being fixed, rotate frequently.
I like my Rossi's and Taurus's, too (Taurii? Taurus'? Tauruses? Never mind...) They shoot good. Go bang and put holes in things. No problems with maintenance. Then again, I shoot less than 10 million rounds a week so, YMMV.
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Shots (figuratively) fired at both Colt and Taurus in the same thread! Guess we just need someone to chime in with some gratuitous Kimber hate too.
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Just my own little opinion here. I see members posting "I owned a Colt once" or "I owned a S&W once" and I'll never own another. Here is what I fail to understand. How can anyone judge a manufacturer based on ownership of a single gun or even a few? Manufacturers turn out millions of guns. They are all not going to leave a factory perfect, even with excellent QA every now and then a problematic gun ships. That is unless you want to pay big money for a gun. While entertaining like most I hate this or that threads they wear themselves out.
Maybe it's time for another Remington Thunderbolts or Thunderduds thread? Those are always entertaining material.
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Maybe it's time for another Remington Thunderbolts or Thunderduds thread? Those are always entertaining material.
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I'd submit that most of the hate comes from those who've never even owned a sample of one.
My brother's buddy's cousin bought a Taurus once... (or a Colt... or a Kimber... insert name of manufacturer here)
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And I should've addressed this one earlier: blaming a business corporation for acting like a business corporation? Kinda like blaming a puppy for acting like a puppy and pooping on the kitchen floor...
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If I’m recalling rightly, wasn’t Colts first big gubmint contract in 1847? The Republic of Texas? I knew PapaG was old but I didn’t think he was that old!
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I hope that remark is not directed at me (the OP for this thread). I would hate to think we were not friends any more....
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Heh!
All I've got to say is WOW! In fifty years of firearms ownership, you NEVER ran across someone like this? My hat's off to you!
OK...so I lied! I've got more to say! (I can hear the groans now..."Oh, no...you got him started!")
These people have always existed, if for no other reason than some people just HAVE to be aggressively opinionated and "right" about whatever it is they're going on about.
"Glock Bois", "Colt Fanatics", or whatever you choose to call them, they're everywhere in the gun world, not to mention life in general. And it's not just makes of guns...it's ammunition, design specifics, "how Samuel Colt intended", terminal ballistics, actual physics behind ballistics, etc.
The real question is "how does one deal with them?"
Well...that's the $64 question, right there.
Sometimes it's best just to sit there and nod as they go on, because you know they'll never be open to anything you say. "Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." (Good ol' Mark Twain)
Sometimes such people offer a lively debate. I say go for it...because guns are fun, and so are gun discussions.
Sometimes it's an honest discussion/debate over merits/facts/statistics/etc. A lot to be learned here.
Sometimes such people offer lively entertainment. By this, I mean they are so easy to provoke that it's difficult not to poke the hornet's nest and watch all the action. *ahem* Especially when others are participating in the debate. Not that I've ever done this. *blinks innocently*
Me? I'd likely have smiled and nodded at this guy as he ranted. No skin off my back!
That is correct, Chief. In fifty years of gun ownership I never met anyone with a blind hatred of Colt products. You may consider that statement verified and confirmed. I have known people, shooters, who prefer Smith & Wesson or Ruger. That did not cause them to foam at the mouth when the subject of Colt's Manufacturing Company comes up. So, it was a new experience with me. No, I am not feeling skinned, wounded, or disappointed in any way.
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Well, I kinda think their revolvers are homely.
They might be good, but I can't get by the looks. They're ahead of a Rhino though. But what isn't? 
Oh...I'm sort of the same way about Rugers.
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In a way, I like people like that guy! Let their hatred consume them and keep them away from Colts!
"More for me" comes to mind!
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You work in gun shops, you're going to meet people that hate every brand, most of them over one incident of lack of reliability, often induced by the brand's hater's ignorance themselves. (Poor maintenance, garage gunsmithing, etc.) But it's the gun's fault. Isn't that supposed to be the anti's position?
I love Colts, especially the Python. But, I know how to keep one running. They are the Harley of DA revolvers. You'd better know how to fix it, or be on good terms with some who can. (No, I won't fix yours. I rarely work on others' guns anymore, good friends only.)
I also Love old S&W revolvers, particularly the Model 14/Combat Masterpiece.
Colt definitely died of it's own hubris. It's running on the good graces of those who still believe a current production rampant pony is worth what they are asking.
No, at the"alleged expert".
I am a Colt hater.
Cylinder release goes the wrong way.
That's what some of us say about S&Ws.
I prefer revolvers without locks. Pre-war Colts are tough to beat, and IMHO once you get used to the Colt lock up other revolvers just feel sloppy. If you're a competition shooter maybe the less robust Colt action is a concern, but for most shooters it will never matter.
IMHO a lot of Colt hate comes from those unable to afford a Colt SAA or older Python, they often say my Uberti is just as good.
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Ruger and Dan Wesson must REALLY drive Smith fans crazy.
Personally, I kind of like the old H&R ejector rod pull release. Pull to release, push to extract/eject, flip over to reload and fold to close. Except for dropping in the fresh ammo, I can work one of those one-handed.
Ruger and Dan Wesson must REALLY drive Smith fans crazy.
Personally, I kind of like the old H&R ejector rod pull release. Pull to release, push to extract/eject, flip over to reload and fold to close. Except for dropping in the fresh ammo, I can work one of those one-handed.
The older Korth .22s are like that too.
S&W has said publicly they don't have parts for or service all of their older revolvers.
Not the same guns.
They are also hugely in demand.
mcb
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The Colt cylinder release is also slower and less ergonomic to use for most shooters, with the pull to release action. In a sport like USPSA where your score is determined by the points earned for hits divided by the time it took you to shoot them, time spent reloading is only hurting your score.
Also when USPSA was dominated by 45 ACP revolvers, Colt had not made a new 45 ACP revolver in decades and was not actively making double action revolver at all for the later half of that period. Now, since 2014, the sport is dominated by 8-shot revolvers and I don't think Colt has ever made an 8-shot revolver.
I have never even seen a Colt at a USPSA. That is were I got my start in double action revolvers and S&W was the dominate choice.
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