Have You Known Many Colt Haters?

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I don't hate Colt, but I care little about them. I used to own a Python(OK, not great, the hand broke), a Combat Commander(absolute trash), and until a few weeks ago, an old police trade in that was cosmetically challenged. I traded it and an S&W model 10, also a police trade in that had seen better days to a friend who has the hots for Police trade ins for a new PC, straight up. A $2000 PC for those two guns and a couple of trinkets was a no brainer. I have much nicer S&W, Dan Wesson, and SAR revolvers I like better, so the Colt went away. The Commander was just a nightmare, and I didn't miss it or the Python. I haven't even considered a Colt since.
 
I think some folks have lost track of - or are choosing to ignore - the question asked by the OP. It is NOT "Are YOU a Colt hater and why?"; the question IS, "Have you known many Colt haters?" Why never enters the conversation.

Now, I'm sure we all appreciate how Colt haters just have to get their viewpoints out and will use any excuse to do so - that's kind of what makes them hateful people - but if you're a Colt hater and don't know any other Colt haters, then your posts are really off-topic. But that's okay by me. Now we know who you are and can "value" your opinions appropriately. :)
 
GeoDudeFlorida said:
I think some folks have lost track of - or are choosing to ignore - the question asked by the OP. It is NOT "Are YOU a Colt hater and why?"; the question IS, "Have you known many Colt haters?" Why never enters the conversation.

Now, I'm sure we all appreciate how Colt haters just have to get their viewpoints out and will use any excuse to do so - that's kind of what makes them hateful people - but if you're a Colt hater and don't know any other Colt haters, then your posts are really off-topic. But that's okay by me. Now we know who you are and can "value" your opinions appropriately. :)
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I saw the original title, "Have You Known Many Colt Haters?" and this meme jump to mind:
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But more to your point. I have known several other Colt haters over the years but most of them hated Colt for reasons related to AR's and/or QC issues and not Revolvers.
 
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Hate is a strong term, as I've said before on this thread some of it comes from sour grapes from those who think Colts are too high priced. I reserve hate for gun companies that think it a good idea to put a lock on a revolver. ;)
 
Paul7 said:
Hate is a strong term, as I've said before on this thread some of it comes from sour grapes from those who think Colts are too high priced. I reserve hate for gun companies that think it a good idea to put a lock on a revolver. ;)
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Because Colt making proprietary non-mil-spec AR parts for the civilian guns (like oversize hammer/trigger pins and take down pins) so mil-spec parts would not fit or work is so much better. ;)
 
There you go again taking Colt to task for acting like an actual business and not some benevolent entity charged with manufacturing everything to everyone's preferences...

If I wrote off companies for not making firearms to my own personal specifications, I'd run out of companies to buy from...

I've also owned some nightmare examples from several big manufacturers, including S&W (especially), Springfield Armory, Remington and Winchester, but I haven't stopped buying their products (yet).
 
mcb said:
Because Colt making proprietary non-mil-spec AR parts for the civilian guns (like oversize hammer/trigger pins and take down pins) so mil-spec parts would not fit or work is so much better. ;)
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Never knew that was a problem, but not nearly as bad as that lock eyesore, that BTW has been known to engage making the gun useless.
 
Paul7 said:
Never knew that was a problem, but not nearly as bad as that lock eyesore, that BTW has been known to engage making the gun useless.
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Its worst than the S&W internal lock IMHO. If I have a large pin Colt lower I can't use 98% of the aftermarket AR fire control products out there. If the lock in a S&W bothers you it can be removed in about 5-minues and does not negate using any aftermarket fire control parts you might want to upgrade. I am not a fan of the S&W internal lock but it's too easy to remove to be a issue to me.

An because of this thread I took about 15 minutes and looks through Colt's entire current product offerings and there is nothing in their catalog that interests me in the slightest. They don't even offer an AR in anything but 223/556 despite the huge selection currently available cartridges for that platform. They only offer revolvers in 38 Special, 357 Mag, 44 Mag & 45 Colt. Not a single rimless or rimfire revolver. And 1911's... nothing else...
 
mcb said:
Its worst than the S&W internal lock IMHO.
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Nothing is worse than the possibility of a gun being randomly inoperative.

If I have a large pin Colt lower I can't use 98% of the aftermarket AR fire control products out there.
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OK, personally I've never changed an AR part.

If the lock in a S&W bothers you it can be removed in about 5-minues and does not negate using any aftermarket fire control parts you might want to upgrade. I am not a fan of the S&W internal lock but it's too easy to remove to be a issue to me.
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It still leaves that ugly hole.

An because of this thread I took about 15 minutes and looks through Colt's entire current product offerings and there is nothing in their catalog that interests me in the slightest. They don't even offer an AR in anything but 223/556 despite the huge selection currently available cartridges for that platform. They only offer revolvers in 38 Special, 357 Mag, 44 Mag & 45 Colt. Not a single rimless or rimfire revolver. And 1911's... nothing else...
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I feel the same of S&W's offerings.
 
mcb said:
Its worst than the S&W internal lock IMHO. If I have a large pin Colt lower I can't use 98% of the aftermarket AR fire control products out there. If the lock in a S&W bothers you it can be removed in about 5-minues and does not negate using any aftermarket fire control parts you might want to upgrade. I am not a fan of the S&W internal lock but it's too easy to remove to be a issue to me.

An because of this thread I took about 15 minutes and looks through Colt's entire current product offerings and there is nothing in their catalog that interests me in the slightest. They don't even offer an AR in anything but 223/556 despite the huge selection currently available cartridges for that platform. They only offer revolvers in 38 Special, 357 Mag, 44 Mag & 45 Colt. Not a single rimless or rimfire revolver. And 1911's... nothing else...
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Trying to keep this revolvers.

My oldest Colt is a Pocket Positive and the newest is a Lawman Mk.V I bought the Lawman NOS in 1987 from a little shop in Vero for $275 + tax. That was a lot of money back then - I was only making $35/hr as a machinist at Piper - but I thought it was a good investment. It's put a LOT of pork and venison on the table since then. Quality work, especially for a bargain-line revolver.

I don't own an "AR" and hopefully never will. I've had my fill of them.

The only thing "new" in Colt's lineup I might consider is the new Cobra IF they ever make it in a 3". I really don't need another snub-nose Colt but that Night Cobra in a 3" would get my interest.
 
Paul7 said:
Nothing is worse than the possibility of a gun being randomly inoperative.



OK, personally I've never changed an AR part.



It still leaves that ugly hole.



I feel the same of S&W's offerings.
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In five minutes you can remove the lock and plug the hole and completely remove any chance of the revolver being randomly render inoperative by the lock.

S&W offering may not be appealing (no accounting for tastes) but it currently significantly larger and more varied than Colts... S&W currently offers 3 times more variety of cartridges in their revolvers than Colt...

GeoDudeFlorida said:
Trying to keep this revolvers.

My oldest Colt is a Pocket Positive and the newest is a Lawman Mk.V I bought the Lawman NOS in 1987 from a little shop in Vero for $275 + tax. That was a lot of money back then - I was only making $35/hr as a machinist at Piper - but I thought it was a good investment. It's put a LOT of pork and venison on the table since then. Quality work, especially for a bargain-line revolver.

I don't own an "AR" and hopefully never will. I've had my fill of them.

The only thing "new" in Colt's lineup I might consider is the new Cobra IF they ever make it in a 3". I really don't need another snub-nose Colt but that Night Cobra in a 3" would get my interest.
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I have tried to stay on Revolvers to but if you going to discuss people that hate Colt then AR's are eventually going to get drawn into that discussion. Colt did some very hate worthy thing related to AR and what they sold to civilians...

My first revolver was a Ruger Blackhawk Convertible 38/357/9 bought as a graduation present to myself in 2003. I never got into it very much and two years later I got into USPSA and then in 2007 I bought my first S&W double action a 610. The was the first of several N-frames and a lot of shooting the round gun against the bottom feeders in competition. Never saw a Colt. My last revolver was a Webley Mark VI clearly aesthetics don't mean much to me. :D
 
mcb said:
In five minutes you can remove the lock and plug the hole and completely remove any chance of the revolver being randomly render inoperative by the lock.

S&W offering may not be appealing (no accounting for tastes) but it currently significantly larger and more varied than Colts... S&W currently offers 3 times more variety of cartridges in their revolvers than Colt...



I have tried to stay on Revolvers to but if you going to discuss people that hate Colt then AR's are eventually going to get drawn into that discussion. Colt did some very hate worthy thing related to AR and what they sold to civilians...

My first revolver was a Ruger Blackhawk Convertible 38/357/9 bought as a graduation present to myself in 2003. I never got into it very much and two years later I got into USPSA and then in 2007 I bought my first S&W double action a 610. The was the first of several N-frames and a lot of shooting the round gun against the bottom feeders in competition. Never saw a Colt. My last revolver was a Webley Mark VI clearly aesthetics don't mean much to me. :D
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My first revolver was a Ruger Blackhawk 4-5/8" .357magnum I was given for a birthday present in 1977. I gave it to the son of a friend as his first "real gun" when he turned 13. Replaced it with a 6-1/2" RBH .357. I've had a few S&W 65/66 in my time but just never cottoned to them. Can't stand the triggers and the grip angle is just wrong. It's just a matter of personal taste.

And, no, in a discussion on a revolver forum, there is never any need to discuss self-loading rifles. You just lost a HUGE amount of credibility in my eyes with that remark. I know, you don't care... Thought you'd like to know.
 
CraigC said:
Some folks should realize that Colt is in the middle of a change in ownership. :confused:
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And hopefully the new management will do a better job of running the company for the long run, rather than just extracting what money they can.
 
mcb said:
In five minutes you can remove the lock and plug the hole and completely remove any chance of the revolver being randomly render inoperative by the lock.

S&W offering may not be appealing (no accounting for tastes) but it currently significantly larger and more varied than Colts... S&W currently offers 3 times more variety of cartridges in their revolvers than Colt...



I have tried to stay on Revolvers to but if you going to discuss people that hate Colt then AR's are eventually going to get drawn into that discussion. Colt did some very hate worthy thing related to AR and what they sold to civilians...

My first revolver was a Ruger Blackhawk Convertible 38/357/9 bought as a graduation present to myself in 2003. I never got into it very much and two years later I got into USPSA and then in 2007 I bought my first S&W double action a 610. The was the first of several N-frames and a lot of shooting the round gun against the bottom feeders in competition. Never saw a Colt. My last revolver was a Webley Mark VI clearly aesthetics don't mean much to me. :D
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The truth is you're a competitive shooter, not a revolver enthusiast and anything not a S&W need no apply. We get it. However, it's a narrow point of view that completely ignores most of the revolver market. You also ignore the fact that the Colt SAA is the best it's ever been and Colt has introduced several new models over the last several years. You also ignore the fact that the internal lock on modern S&W's is a big turnoff for a lot of revolver buyers.
 
CraigC said:
The truth is you're a competitive shooter, not a revolver enthusiast and anything not a S&W need no apply. We get it. However, it's a narrow point of view that completely ignores most of the revolver market.
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Exactly. There are 31,000 USPSA members, divided by 70,000,000 handgun owners makes .0004%, or barely relevant to this discussion.
 
CraigC said:
You also ignore the fact that the Colt SAA is the best it's ever been and Colt has introduced several new models over the last several years.
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Many of which have been in very high demand.

You also ignore the fact that the internal lock on modern S&W's is a big turnoff for a lot of revolver buyers.
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BINGO. For me it's the principle, I don't want to support a gun maker that caved into the gun control crowd.
 
Paul7 said:
Many of which have been in very high demand.



BINGO. For me it's the principle, I don't want to support a gun maker that caved into the gun control crowd.
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I wondered how long it would be before that came up lol. Colt has done some perplexing things over the years, not sure any of them rose to this level. But S&W has different ownership now, as does Colt.
 
Paul7 said:
Many of which have been in very high demand.



BINGO. For me it's the principle, I don't want to support a gun maker that caved into the gun control crowd.
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Yup. I got a fair bit of cash for my non-safety-firing-pin Uberti's. Won't buy another. Among the Spaghetti Gun Makers, Pietta and Pedersoli have done me better, anyhow.
 
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