Quick. About to buy a Cz 527 2.23 Rifle. Should I.

MR WICK said:

I live in Vegas and the only 223 rifle I could find was the CZ 527. I know CZ makes quality products. I've mastered the 22lr Rifle and want to shoot between 500 and 750 yards.

Is this a quality Rifle?

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They're very nice rifles.

Very handy carbines, maybe more suited to offhand and field position shooting as opposed to bench rest longer distance shooting depending on the model.

Either way, the action could be dropped into a MDT chassis at which point it'd be a very good Long Range 223 platform.

The 527's very recently got discontinued so their value is only going to go up as well.

I'd snatch it up if the price was reasonable and I was interested in one.

gotboostvr said:

They're very nice rifles.

Very handy carbines, maybe more suited to offhand and field position shooting as opposed to bench rest longer distance shooting depending on the model.

Either way, the action could be dropped into a MDT chassis at which point it'd be a very good Long Range 223 platform.

The 527's very recently got discontinued so their value is only going to go up as well.

I'd snatch it up if the price was reasonable and I was interested in one.

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I agree with all of those statements.
I PERSONALLY wouldnt buy one specifically as a bench rifle.
I think the 527 excels is a field rifle but there are better options for the cost If looking at long-range specific activity, especially from a fixed position like a bench.

Actually I might buy the varmint version, but even that's a little light for for a bench got in my opinion.



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All That said, You absolutely should buy that 527 simply because they're amazingly cool little guns!

LoonWulf said:

I agree with all of those statements.
I PERSONALLY wouldnt buy one specifically as a bench rifle.
I think the 527 excels is a field rifle but there are better options for the cost If looking at long-range specific activity, especially from a fixed position like a bench.

Actually I might buy the varmint version, but even that's a little light for for a bench got in my opinion.



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All That said, You absolutely should buy that 527 simply because they're amazingly cool little guns!

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Oh yeah, there's certainly better turn-key options for a bench gun.

A Savage 110 varmint, or Rem700 SPS varmint come to mind.

Tikka or Bergara if you want to spend a little more, Howa or Ruger if you want to spend a little less.

YES

Well, I bought three of them at the full retail price. Take that for what it's worth.

My .223 is full-stocked with a set of NECG iron sights and a factory replacement trigger guard that accepts their shorter 3-shot magazine as well as the regular 5-rounders.

Grab it while you can,2 things though magazines aren't cheap and the firing pin springs tend to weaken in somewhat short order.

Nice, congrats! I really like mine.

Hard to tell in the photo, but is that the m1 version with the flush fit magazine well and 3 round magazine (in addition to the 5 rounder pictured)?

high country said:

Nice, congrats! I really like mine.

Hard to tell in the photo, but is that the m1 version with the flush fit magazine well and 3 round magazine (in addition to the 5 rounder pictured)?

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Sure looks that way, the older bottom metal wouldnt have shown a gap in front of the guard.

Nice supressor ready carbine there op!

gotboostvr said:

Either way, the action could be dropped into a MDT chassis at which point it'd be a very good Long Range 223 platform.

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BTW, here's what the MDT chassis looks like, in .300 AAC and kitted out as a folder -- the bolt handle is from Glades Armory (courtesy a recommendation from dh1633pm):

Very nice indeed. I really like my .223 carbine,brings a smile to my face every time I get it out of my safe

I have a 527 and it shoots from the bench just as accurately as I'm able to.... I've had stunning 5-touching-holes groups at 100 yards using a quality rest. Mine shoots so well that I bought a matching CZ in .22LR and it is equally good. I'll tell you, I am sold on CZ firearms. (not related to this thread, but my 2 CZ handguns have been equally impressive especially when you take into account the reasonable prices) The 527 may not be designed as a bench rifle, but it certainly tries hard at being one.

They are specific to CZ, you can get them from CZ or there are a few aftermarket options (warne at least I think). DIP also makes an add on rail to use standard rings.

Scope mounting is one of the challenges on these because the occular bell is quite close to the bolt lever so some have had issues with interference with large scopes mounted low.

Does a bear do his business in the woods.

CZ was also selling a pretty decent factory set at their storefront, but it looks like that ship may have sailed:
https://shop.cz-usa.com/cz-products/rifles/rings-mounts/centerfire.html

Warne QDs are cool, but easier to take off than to put back on. If you scope, I recommend going with Warne's fixed series rings:
https://www.amazon.com/Warne-inch-CZ-Permanently-Attached/dp/B005KW6ZMU

MR WICK said:

Can I get at like a Sportsman Warehouse?

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Honestly not sure, you would have to check thier website. I looked in my box, and it looks like I am using a Burris set that I picked up at a local shop. What optic are you trying to mount?

There's a company that makes bolt handles for the 527 that allows the bolt handle to clear the objective bell of a scope.
No if I could remember their that would be great I do know they're around $60.

I believe CZ changed their bolt handle design several years ago to try and remedy the bolt handle ocular issue. It’s still not perfect, but it’s not been an issue for me. I’ve tried one brand of replacement handles (it might have been Glades Armory) and switched back to the original CZ handle. The replacement handle was so long it felt out of place on the mini-Mauser design.

The dove tail is a 16 degree. DIP & EGW make rails that fit and several companies make rings. You’ll probably need to shop online for either. For the varmint models I prefer the rails. My carbine and American models use rings.

I have 6 - 527’s and am quite fond of them. I also have a Rem 700 223. I’ve not shot it once since I got the CZ. The smaller frame of the CZ just feels right for those cartridges.

MR WICK said:

My new addition. Thanks everyone.

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Nice score. You won't be disappointed. My CZ 527 American in 7.62x39 is the first sub MOA rifle I've ever owned. Or I guess I should say the CZ is the first rifle I've achieved sub MOA 5-shot groups. It's consistently, repeatably precise and accurate, bench rest or improvised rest, either way. I hear mostly good reports from people who have them in other calibers, including .223. Based on the good experience I've had with mine I don't doubt it.

highlander 5 said:

There's a company that makes bolt handles for the 527 that allows the bolt handle to clear the objective bell of a scope.
Now if I could remember their name that would be great. I do know they're around $60.

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Glades Armory. I bought the the RH bent shaft model with large ball knob. At just over an inch in diameter it's a big ball. Every time I look at it I get that AC/DC song stuck in my head. But the big balls works and the bolt handle dropped right in with very little fuss. They have other knob options you might like better, but I think their products are superior to the stock bolt handle. The people at Glades are nice folks who make quality product. I had a little correspondence back and forth with them as I was deciding what handle to purchase, and again when I was installing it. They responded in a timely manner and were very helpful.

https://gladesarmory.com/product-category/cz/cz-527-tactical-bolt-handle/cz-527-right-hand/

I also recommend Warne rings. I use the 1-inch Medium height fixed rings, Model 1B1M. Warne Mediums are the lowest height rings available for the CZ 527. Low is usually better for most applications. IMO the CZ brand rings and others are too high. I don't care for rails, but that's just me. I don't like the area over the port to be cluttered, which could complicate clearing jams should they occur. I doubt I'll ever have jams with the CZ, but I'm a cautious fellow. (I was an Eagle Scout... can't help it)

https://warnescopemounts.com/product/warne-1-inch-cz-pa-med-matte-rings/

I run a Burris Fullfield II 3-9x40. The objective bell is roughly 46 mm outside diameter. The Ocular bell is roughly 40 mm. With the Glades handle and the Warne mediums I have plenty of room to spare on both ends with no interference. I could move up to a bit higher power scope with larger objective bell and still use the Warnes.

The mags are a little pricey, but I bit the bullet and bought a couple. Clicking on the "Complete Your Purchase Button" is the hard part. (Glad that's over) So now I have 3 5-round mags. I can't imagine needing any more than that. The only thing I don't like about my CZ is I can't load it from the top due to the single stack mags.

A word of caution. Don't try to insert a round into the chamber from the top and slam the bolt home. You could mess up the bolt face and extractor and have to send it off for repair. Each round has to slide up from the mag.

There's a way to do it from the top that takes some practice. You insert the round into the chamber enough so that you can pull it back slightly into the mag. Then you can slide the bolt home. I've see a couple people that are pretty quick at it. I don't quite have the technique down yet. Maybe best just to use the mags.

Lots of good advice on here.

As mentioned, CZ updated the bolt handle design some time ago, so the major issues with handle to scope clearance have been addressed. You have the new style, so lots of the stuff you read online about that problem don't apply to you. I have that same bolt handle and it clears a Burris Fullfield E1 4.5-14x42 on medium height rings.

In my experience, the magazines are a weak point on these. I struggled to get them to feed smoothly, and they leave deep gouges in my brass. The three round and five round versions had the same issues, needing a lot of smoothing and a little recontouring on the feed lips. You mileage may vary, and I hope it does, but if you look around you will see that is common. One trick that does help with feeding is to operate the bolt with your thumb pressing on the end of the bolt rather than only pushing on the handle.

My solution for most of the time I use it is to use a bob-sled single shot adapter and eliminate the magazine issues altogether. Without the upward pressure from the next round the bolt operates very smoothly.

There are conflicting opinions on single feeding with the magazine in (which forces the extractor over the rim, rather than having the rim slide up under the extractor from the bottom). This was a no-no on older Mauser actions, but I think CZ says it is ok on these. You do have to give the bolt a bit of a nudge to get it over. The bob-sled allows single feeding rounds with them going under the extractor the right way.