That's it for Russian steel case, right?

I have never and will never buy anything the Russians make. I didn’t like the Government of the Soviet Union, and I do not like the government of Russia. They. Will never see a penny of my money.

With the amount of orchestrating that’s gone on in the world lately, don’t be surprised if this war spreads, gets serious for the US, and BOOM!

We can’t hold elections during a war!

Be patriotic you communist! If you complain you love Putin! Do the right thing and shut up! We’ll have elections when the war is over in 10 years.

DustyGmt said:

It's always gonna be something, war, elections, mass shooting, etc.... it just seems alot of us are more easily prompted to alarm and begin panic buying setting off a domino effect and cranking the prices right up in a hurry.

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Ever see a supermarket when there's news of a winter storm coming? People who haven't bought a loaf of bread or a container of milk all year start emptying the shelves.

January 20, 2050 "Dear Diary, today I finally used the last roll of toilet paper my parents bought during the Covid epidemic."

As far as steel cased ammo, be ironic during a shooting war that people are killing Russians with ammo the Russians produced themselves.

Doesn’t Russia profit mostly from oil? Cheap ammo exports can’t possibly be what funded the Ukraine invasion? Didn’t our wise and fearless administration leave a few doors open (and conveniently close them too late) for Russia to profit further from oil exports? The more dots I connect, the slimier this whole thing gets.

How many more dots until we’re at war and can’t hold elections?

DoubleMag said:

posts #71 & 72 for the win IMHO.

PPl are DYING, homes destroyed, gas lines CUT / BLOWN UP(on purpose), that's about the most INCORRECT time to worry about ''is my lil bullit gonna cost more?''

Especially when there is in fact, OTHER sources for ammo. Including the much beloved steel case ammo.

Grab another cup of coffee, reset the priority list folks. Way less then 1 week in, we are not 100% from NEVER getting involved in this yet!

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Looking out my window I don't see anyone dying, any gas lines cut, or any other problems of that nature. The only way this becomes a problem for the US is if the elites running the show make it a problem for us. I do however see ammo prices going up...which is a problem.

Tinker-S said:

Sir,
I like your post.
Just yesterday I was inspecting my meager ammo stash, and it hit me: So what if I were to have a warehouse full of the stuff? Am I going to use it at the range or am I going to wait on an event when we get invaded and I were to do my duty with my rifle in my hand?
This is madness, I thought, and took my 200 rounds and blasted away at the range. All done!
So, if or when we get invaded, I hope that the people with a bigger stash can do what I will not, due to ammo prices.

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Interesting. I was low on ammo during BHO, the only 9mm I had was the JHP's I had loaded in mags and some shooting or another caused a panic and I was out for a while, I really didn't like that. It's hard for me to imagine myself in that same pickle again. So, you shot up your entire stash? Not judging, just curious....

1942bull said:

I have never and will never buy anything the Russians make. I didn’t like the Government of the Soviet Union, and I do not like the government of Russia. They. Will never see a penny of my money.

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Russia is not the Soviet Union. This mentality of being stuck in the last century is costing the US dearly, and the trickle down for us is less ammo. We need to get with the times and quit acting like Russia = Soviet Union.

1942bull said:

I have never and will never buy anything the Russians make. I didn’t like the Government of the Soviet Union, and I do not like the government of Russia. They. Will never see a penny of my money.

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Everyone was worked up over 'commies'. It turns out their economic system wasn't the only problem. They just have always had imperial ambitions. And they have always been thugs.

Will Munny said:

Looking out my window I don't see anyone dying, any gas lines cut, or any other problems of that nature. The only way this becomes a problem for the US is if the elites running the show make it a problem for us. I do however see ammo prices going up...which is a problem.

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That's exactly the isolationist mentality that helped WWII become the human tragedy that it was. Look, I'm all for isolationism and minding our own business. But here's the deal. Power abhors a vacuum. Someone will lead the world. Do you want that someone to be the US, or the Soviets? (Or, for that matter, the Chinese?)

We are about to re-learn the lesson of the Second World War, which is, to not allow any one power to be able to impose itself on a free people. That's not an "elite" talking, that's a blue collar worker with a grasp of history talking.

But to keep this firearm related, think about this: we don't have to "send in the Marines." We can continue to be the "Arsenal of Democracy" that we have always been. We just voted to drop $6B in aid to Ukraine. That will buy a lot of ammo to send over there. That will, in turn, shorten supplies available to us here. No matter how you slice this, things are going to get tight. The president warned us of as much in his address a few days ago.

D.B. Cooper said:

That's exactly the isolationist mentality that helped WWII become the human tragedy that it was. Look, I'm all for isolationism and minding our own business. But here's the deal. Power abhors a vacuum. Someone will lead the world. Do you want that someone to be the US, or the Soviets? (Or, for that matter, the Chinese?)

We are about to re-learn the lesson of the Second World War, which is, to not allow any one power to be able to impose itself on a free people. That's not an "elite" talking, that's a blue collar worker with a grasp of history talking.

But to keep this firearm related, think about this: we don't have to "send in the Marines." We can continue to be the "Arsenal of Democracy" that we have always been. We just voted to drop $6B in aid to Ukraine. That will buy a lot of ammo to send over there. That will, in turn, shorten supplies available to us here. No matter how you slice this, things are going to get tight. The president warned us of as much in his address a few days ago.

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WWII was not a product of "isolationism" or any such BS. WWII was a product of the US interfering in Europe after the first World War, with Wilson and his "fourteen points" crap. It was not the Europeans, but the US that pushed for "self determination" and creating a number of small weak states in Eastern Europe sandwiched between two large and powerful ones. We were the ones that stopped the French from imposing terms on Germany that could have resulted in a balance of power. It was not "isolationism" when the US invaded neutral Russia and interfered in her civil war, supporting the loosing side and poisoning relations with the faction that eventually emerged victorious as the USSR. Wilson was convinced he was a brilliant man but he was easily the most foolish one at Versailles. Marshal Foch might have been the wisest when he said “This is not a peace. It is an armistice for twenty years!” in 1919. Do the math on that one.

I'm sure Biden would be happy to use this as a pretense to buy up arms and ammo using the government printing press and send it off to Ukraine, resulting in another shortage of epic proportions here that would make it difficult or impossible to buy ammo or firearms. But those of us that support the constitution and the 2A should not be so easily duped into believing in this kind of policy.

How does the Biden camp spin the giving of arms, to the masses, in Ukraine? Are they really going to be stupid enough to spread gun control, with a straight face, after letting that be reported on, in our paid for media? I can see it now, give up your guns, but we will give them back, when we are invaded, so you can get shot at, not us. Not a lover of KGB Putin, but I would buy Russia product, before buying China, and when China invades Taiwan, good luck with all of you that jumped on that bandwagon, good success with not buying anything, including most medications that you are taking, because they are made in China, as with almost everything else. If we would have kept out of Ukraine in 2014, this would not be happening. Just saying.

China already has tentacles in the US. Fang Fang anybody? No repercussions for China or Swall. China will be the bigger problem in the end.