ontarget
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Please explain why.
I was looking at one last week. Is there an inherent problem I should consider? I was actually going to see if it was still there today.
Recommend me a DA .22 LR that's actually in stock
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Please explain why.
I was looking at one last week. Is there an inherent problem I should consider? I was actually going to see if it was still there today.
Had two that would not shoot worth a hoot! And had four other hunting buddies and bullseye leaguers that had the same problems. Had misfires due to timing issues. Our gunsmith said, as of two years ago, was probably the worst revolver he worked on.
I picked up and old 6 shooter 617 and it is awesome. Go figure! But then heard of Ruger’s Single Ten having the same issues.
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you may want to watch a video i made. i wish i saw similar videos before i bought mine. they did eventually fix it ( crossing fingers) but so far only have 300 plus rounds since the fix.
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That is a very good question because it is thought provoking and not easy to answer.
The first thing that came to mind was Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart’s definition of pornography: "It may not be easy to define but I know it when I see it." But as entertaining as that is, it is not very helpful.
I want the gun and ammo combination to shoot accurately enough to allow me to call my shots. I want ME to be the limiting factor in determining group sizes. I will have good days and bad days and my group size can vary widely, but I want it to be my shakiness that causes big groups, not inherent problems with the gun and or ammo.
So with that criteria as background, assume I am shooting a DA revolver over a rest at 15 yards. If the group is bigger than a quarter, I am going to experiment with different brands of ammunition. If I can't find a brand of ammo that provides quarter sized groups, the gun is a candidate for being sold or traded away. That is my rule of thumb, based on my physical and eyesight limitations and my experience on the range. It need not be yours.
Think about this: When you are shooting at a steel plate, you want to hit it. (Otherwise, why are you shooting at it?). If your groups are large, it makes the effective target size smaller, more difficult to hit. For example, let's say your groups are 5 inches in diameter. That means if your sights get closer than 2.5" inches to the edge of your target, you may miss. In other words, your effective target size is not the full plate, it is the area inside a 2.5" margin all around the plate. A more accurate gun increases the number of hits by expanding the usable effective target size.
You can probably find an inexpensive revolver that you can be happy with. I stack the odds in my favor by avoiding really cheap guns, rather than rolling the dice.
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The main reason that rimfire revolvers have stiffer/heavier trigger pulls is the fact that they normally use a heavier hammer spring in order to setoff the rimfire primers. Rimfire primers take a little more force to set off versus most centerfire primers.
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Well, I have one that is over fifteen years old and it has worked perfectly. What can I say, luck of the draw, you got the occasional lemon that comes out of every factory once in a while, whatever. I have a few more Taurus guns that have never given a problem so I, personally, am a satisfied Taurus customer.
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Well explained, I think as well as anyone could put it in plain English. Thanks for taking that time to write your reply.
I understand what you want in such a firearm and I know what I will accept and in general being in good working order and having a decent DA rimfire trigger is what I am happy with.
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I picked up a Charter Arms Pathfinder back in November. My first trip to the range didn’t go so good. I fired a few brands of high velocity and all got stuck in the cylinder, and we’re very hard to eject. I had no problem with CCI Standard Velocity ammo.
I just need to get off my butt and send it back to Charter Arms to have the cylinder fixed.
I just need to get off my butt and send it back to Charter Arms to have the cylinder fixed.
Is it me, or do those chambers look rough?
Or maybe they're just dirty , what do I know.
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They're rough
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The chambers are dirty. The problem is the back of the chambers are out of spec. You can see in the pic of the eight cases, one from each chamber, has marks, and bulging just above the rim.
That is a pretty common problem with lots of .22s, including S&W. Have never had that happen with my Korth .22, although do get a few DA light strikes.
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You could. However, I've never been able to "throw cartridges downrange" with accuracy anywhere near that of my least-accurate firearm. Even my old J22 puts 'em better than my tossing hand does.
You could. However, I've never been able to "throw cartridges downrange" with accuracy anywhere near that of my least-accurate firearm. Even my old J22 puts 'em better than my tossing hand does.
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Mine had a great DA trigger, and I improved it even more with some DIY trigger work.
My 10 shooter has been a dream!
My 10 shooter has been a dream!
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In a previous post I said I wanted my revolvers to shoot quarter-sized groups over a rest at 15 yards. I took 3 different S&W .22 LR revolvers to the range today to refresh the test.
In the interest of honesty, I know these guns can do it, because they did it years ago. But the best I could do today was a 50-cent piece sized group. It’s me, or more specifically my eyes, that can no longer perform to my old standard; can’t blame the guns or ammo. Shooting is always fun but so frequently humbling.
Maybe I can blame inflation. It takes 50 cents these days to buy what I used to get for a quarter.
In the interest of honesty, I know these guns can do it, because they did it years ago. But the best I could do today was a 50-cent piece sized group. It’s me, or more specifically my eyes, that can no longer perform to my old standard; can’t blame the guns or ammo. Shooting is always fun but so frequently humbling.
Maybe I can blame inflation. It takes 50 cents these days to buy what I used to get for a quarter.
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It definitely looks like the diameter of the chambers and the half circle cuts on the ejector aren't the same size.
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Gilbert’s Guns in Frankfort KY had a couple of Charter Arms 22s in different barrel lengths when I was in there last week. It think the most expensive was $379.
Or if you’re OK with lavender: https://www.kygunco.com/product/charter-arms-52242-pathfinder-lite-22-lr-4.2-lavender-ss-6rd
Or if you’re OK with lavender: https://www.kygunco.com/product/charter-arms-52242-pathfinder-lite-22-lr-4.2-lavender-ss-6rd
I know you want DA but I've had great fun with a 200 dollar wrangler.
Otherwise I can recommend looking for a model 63. I have no experience with the new ones but a no dash 63 is a lot of fun, very accurate and handy, no problems.
I can also recommend the lcr in 22. I wish I still had mine, you know how it goes. At the time they didn't have a 3 inch barrel option and I'm very interested in that, but if I came across another under 600...(at the time I think mine was 325 otd...ah the good ol days of 2018...)
Otherwise I can recommend looking for a model 63. I have no experience with the new ones but a no dash 63 is a lot of fun, very accurate and handy, no problems.
I can also recommend the lcr in 22. I wish I still had mine, you know how it goes. At the time they didn't have a 3 inch barrel option and I'm very interested in that, but if I came across another under 600...(at the time I think mine was 325 otd...ah the good ol days of 2018...)
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I found the perfect revolver for you.
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Nice Gunny! How does it shoot?
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I've been on the same track, also wanted the 942 or a Pathfinder Lite. Finally found a Pathfinder Lite after all this time, and it's a Lavender Lady model. Took a few hours of contemplation before I hit the buy button. It should be here by Friday, will report back after a range trip.
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6 or 8 shot?
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8 shot. I've been looking for the 4.2" as well but lately have only found it in 6 shot.
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It came yesterday, cleaned and then went to the range. Trigger was as expected for a rimfire, measured just under 14#. Sights for me required about a 12 o'clock hold @ 5-7 yards. Issue of concern was so much key holing, was using CCI MM 40grain CPRN, the only ammo I purchase besides Velocitor. Perhaps you guys can enlighten me on what causes key holing to happen?
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