CZ Scorpion EVO 3 worth it?
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It's fine. I've enjoyed mine. It's particularly nice if you put a BFSIII binary trigger or the non-binary Timney for a light crisp pull. It used to be cheap and that was the biggest benefit, although everything has gotten stupid since then on pricing so that's less of a benefit. It makes a very nice suppressor host as well though. Yes technically the other delayed blowback PCCs out there are a bit softer shooting, but if budget is more important, you won't be unhappy with it and I've always thought that it's one of the cooler looking ones out there.
How difficult was it to install the Timney trigger? The trigger isn't bad but making it better is always an option if it isn't too troublesome.
To the original poster. The gun is nice and well made with many after market parts. I recommend changing the safety selector to a button on the side you're not using. That is my only major complaint about the gun.
It's one of the easier guns to work on as far as the Timney trigger as long as you're careful about little springs flying around and you're careful. The trigger quality upgrade is so big with it, I'd say it's worth it as long as you know your way around an allen wrench.
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Had a straight brace (still have it; where in PA are you?), and the only fault I could find, it, and the MagPul folder make it tough to get low enough on the gun for the iron sights.
Went with the factory folder (and a stamp), which is both firm and allows a good sight picture with the irons. If you're not worrying about the irons, then a red dot solves the problem.
I have the HB spring kit in my trigger; it doesn't turn the OEM into a Geissele, but it's quite good for what it is. And cheap; less than $10? It's a little fiddly to install.
Mine has been stone reliable, shoots straight (have a tie plate dangling at 85 yards, and have little trouble hitting it offhand), and magazines are reasonably priced. There are aftermarkets available, but I've stuck with OEM.
There is a lot of good stuff for it, but about all I have is the enlarged operating handle, and a couple quick detach doozits for a sling. The MagPul grip is an improvement.
It's a ball to shoot, and not ammo picky in the slightest. Go for it.
You could go with the 16" Carbine and the OEM stock.
BTW, had a SIG, which was not stone reliable, and took those damned $60 magazines...it was not that much softer shooting, either.
Moon
Went with the factory folder (and a stamp), which is both firm and allows a good sight picture with the irons. If you're not worrying about the irons, then a red dot solves the problem.
I have the HB spring kit in my trigger; it doesn't turn the OEM into a Geissele, but it's quite good for what it is. And cheap; less than $10? It's a little fiddly to install.
Mine has been stone reliable, shoots straight (have a tie plate dangling at 85 yards, and have little trouble hitting it offhand), and magazines are reasonably priced. There are aftermarkets available, but I've stuck with OEM.
There is a lot of good stuff for it, but about all I have is the enlarged operating handle, and a couple quick detach doozits for a sling. The MagPul grip is an improvement.
It's a ball to shoot, and not ammo picky in the slightest. Go for it.
You could go with the 16" Carbine and the OEM stock.
BTW, had a SIG, which was not stone reliable, and took those damned $60 magazines...it was not that much softer shooting, either.
Moon
I ordered the SB EVO brace adapter combo. Putting a Romeo5 on it that I already have (on high mount)
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I looked hard at the CZ, but wound up getting the GP Stribog SP9 A3, with the SB MP5 sidefolder brace included in the package (you install it yourself, tho). I thot that the Stribog had better ergonomics and had far fewer snag points than the CZ; it just carries a lot better for me. I'm debating making it an SBR, but for now its a pistol with the SB brace.
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Went scurrying to check what brace I'd used; it was a Shockwave Blade, well made, but not nearly as satisfying as the OEM folder.
You reminded me about the QD highmount, as I put it on when still using the brace, but it still gives good alignment, and can be quickly pulled off to use the (zeroed) irons.
Nearly forgot; got the HB spring kit, less than $10, and it really improves the trigger. It's a little fiddly to install, but works well.
Moon
You reminded me about the QD highmount, as I put it on when still using the brace, but it still gives good alignment, and can be quickly pulled off to use the (zeroed) irons.
Nearly forgot; got the HB spring kit, less than $10, and it really improves the trigger. It's a little fiddly to install, but works well.
Moon
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Definitely worth it, especially with the upgrades and a suppressor.
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That's more or less the setup I want sitting next to my bed.
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Mine has been SBR'd, and wears the factory folder buttstock. Optic is an Aimpoint Patrol Rifle Optic.
I also installed the HB trigger, new grip, and the one-sided safety. The gun's controls from the factory were definitely not ideal.
Its a great suppressor host (likes Lawman 147 grain ammo), although I'm still working on handloads that also work.
As now configured, I love the gun. It wasn't cheap to build, but 9mm ammo is relatively inexpensive, and its easy to put shots on target.
I also installed the HB trigger, new grip, and the one-sided safety. The gun's controls from the factory were definitely not ideal.
Its a great suppressor host (likes Lawman 147 grain ammo), although I'm still working on handloads that also work.
As now configured, I love the gun. It wasn't cheap to build, but 9mm ammo is relatively inexpensive, and its easy to put shots on target.
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Longtime fan of PCCs; hell, my hunting rifle (.44 Mag) is a PCC.
But the 9s are a ball to shoot; relatively cheap to feed, able to be fired in most indoor ranges, safe with mild steel reactive targets, and an effective/handy defense firearm.
There have been some protracted discussions of 9mm vs 5.56 for defense, but the smaller muzzle blast/report of the 9 makes sense to me, especially with a short barrel.
The Scorp is a great example of the breed.
Moon
But the 9s are a ball to shoot; relatively cheap to feed, able to be fired in most indoor ranges, safe with mild steel reactive targets, and an effective/handy defense firearm.
There have been some protracted discussions of 9mm vs 5.56 for defense, but the smaller muzzle blast/report of the 9 makes sense to me, especially with a short barrel.
The Scorp is a great example of the breed.
Moon
I'm a big CZ fan have owned many and was very excited about getting the scorpion.... that all changed when I brought it to the range. I didnt understand what all the hype was about. Especially when all my real pistols have less recoil than this large pistol, and the trigger was anything but special. The hype is they are new and look kinda cool and have a nod to the old scorpion with the name... but there are far better options out there... look for "roller" or " radial" delayed actions.... Far Better..... just my opinion and my experience... I sold off my scorpion and went CMMG.... much better for me.
I bought one not too long after it came out. I did some mods to it on the trigger and mag release and an adapter to fold the brace.
It was reliable,
I shot it in a good many of our twice a month indoor carbine matches but I never warmed to it once the novelty wore off.
It was reliable,
I shot it in a good many of our twice a month indoor carbine matches but I never warmed to it once the novelty wore off.
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What are you boys doing? Really nothing difficult with the Scorp's recoil; had a SIG roller lock, and thot' there was little difference. Having a real stock does make a big difference.
One thing I did notice; the factory stock has a sloped rear surface 'till it levels out the rest of the way to the butt.
If you 'climb the stock' on to the sloped section, it will pound your cheek. Moving your cheek back to the straight section solves the problem.
Moon
One thing I did notice; the factory stock has a sloped rear surface 'till it levels out the rest of the way to the butt.
If you 'climb the stock' on to the sloped section, it will pound your cheek. Moving your cheek back to the straight section solves the problem.
Moon
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Careful with magazines, the old ones won't work with the new gen gun.
Alte Schule
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Scorpion Evo 3 I have had about six years. Haven’t shot it since right before COVID raised it’s head. Will rectify that in two weeks. It’s paired with a HiPoint in .380 APC.
I think they're worth it. Tons of fun, accurate, reliable, etc, mine has the Franklin Armory Binary trigger and some other uprgrades. I have a tool bag for it that holds a bunch of spare mags and the gun with the stock folded, easy to throw in the passenger seat to take along for rides.
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Wow, the buzz gun version would be fun to try...any idea what the cyclic rate is?
One of the things I really like about the Scorp; it really is a buzz gun, so whatever abuse I put on mine is small potatoes by comparison.
Moon
One of the things I really like about the Scorp; it really is a buzz gun, so whatever abuse I put on mine is small potatoes by comparison.
Moon
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WC145, have mine in a stubby bag as well; mine actually has a tax stamp, and a copy of that is in the bug out bag as well.
With the straight stock, do you have any problems getting down on the sights?
Moon
With the straight stock, do you have any problems getting down on the sights?
Moon
No, the stock is low enough to get a good sight picture without any trouble, kind of AR-ish.
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