Moving to Raleigh, NC and need some intel.

Be prepared for Jim Crow restrictions on handgun purchases.

Crunchy Frog said:

Be prepared for Jim Crow restrictions on handgun purchases.

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Really? I walk in a gun shop and walk out with a handgun. If you have a ccp you do nothing else. Walk in and walk out with 10 handguns if you wish. If not you go to the sheriff office and get 4 handgun permits. Like 5 bucks each. They aren't for any in particular handgun. Yes its dumb. But no it never caused an issue. Carry the 4 around until you run out or get your ccp. Thats the main reason I got my ccp in the first place. Just to not have to go get 4 permits.

There is no wait for the permits either. Walk in and walk out

Open carry is also legal in NC. And not uncommon.

The Raleigh area is about the last place I'd go in NC but you do what you must. Charlotte has a few nice gun stores.

Crunchy Frog said:

Be prepared for Jim Crow restrictions on handgun purchases.

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I'd love to know the basis for your comment.

TarDevil said:

I'd love to know the basis for your comment.

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Most likely the pistol purchase permits we have to buy from the sherrif if you don't have a ccp. It predates normal background checks and is redundant and a left over. People hate it. It's been in congress a billion times to be struck down. If your like me you forget about that. Ive had my carry permit since shortly after I turned 21.

Get a ccp though and it's all good. Everyone should have the permit anyway. Even if they don't carry. Sounds good. "6.5 out of 8 million Carolinians have a ccp" nice ring to it.

For anyone who doesn't know. In NC you have to go to the sheriff office (your county) and get a permit for each pistol you buy. You need not name the pistol. The permit is good for several years. No wait time. You can buy 4 purchase permit at a time and carry them. It was annoying when you see a pistol you want in another county. If you were out of permit you had to travel back to your home county to get one (or 4)

If you have a carry permit you just let them copy that and you drivers license and go on about your way.

I have questions.

Can the sheriff deny your permit?

Can, you sell to another individual without a transfer?

How do they track which handguns you have?

Is there a limit on the number of handguns you can own?

Yes

No

Who, the sherrif? They don't. Still have to complete 4473.

No

Thanks for the reply @TarDevil

CountGlockula said:

Sounds like NC, has had their rights infringed.

Are there any restrictions on AR15?

Please don’t tell me they have to be converted per NC gun control nonsense.

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No rules on AR rifles. The only dumb thing we have is the permit to purchase. Ive never heard of one being denied either but I'm sure it can happen. I don't think of it as an infringement since it's a relic from before the national background check. I think they keep it in place for the income honestly so It's not something new by any means. It was passed in 1919 and while we do hear "Jim crow" a lot, it really is a valid argument here.. most say that it was, in fact, to keep Black Americans from having a handgun. Our state legislation votes to repeal it yearly. Roy Cooper vetoes it and the law stays on the books. Does it infringe? Maybe. Get your ccp and it's not a thought. Get the 5 dollar permit and its not a thought. And it actually (inadvertently im sure) makes the process of buying a gun much faster and easier if you have a ccp since the ccp itself is the states background check.


I got my carry permit 20 years ago so I forget about it. get your ccp that goes away. No registration. No mag limits. You can open carry in walmart with no permit at all. It's common. I don't. Decent hunting seasons if you are into hunting. Western deer is over a month long.

Duty to inform if you carry is another one that some hate.

We also have E0 93 octane fuel. Many of my old cars need that. Lol.

Bazoo said:

Is there a limit on the number of handguns you can own?

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Everything tardevil said stands true. I'll point out that you simply go to your sheriff's office and get 4 purchase permits. You can then go anywhere in NC and buy 4 guns. You can hoard up purchase permits (they used to be 5 dollars) go in 10 times in a day have 40 purchase permits. It's not 4 in a day. Its 4 in a purchase. Can get more the same day. I always carried them in my wallet. When Your 400 miles away at the coast and go in a pawn shop/gun store see a Python for 500 bucks and don't have a purchase permit.....sucks. lol. So carry a few or get your ccp

Or get your carry permit and never worry with it. With your permit you walk in the store, they copy the permit and your purchase and you buy whatever you want. They don't have to make the phone call or do online checks since your carry permit suffices. Works for handgun/longgun. If the phone lines are down....nics down...no matter. I still get my gun. No false denials either that I've heard about.

I can buy 10 handguns in 2 minutes if I so choose. Fill out the form while they make the copy of my License/ permit and go.

This looks to be useful reading: https://ncdoj.gov/download/98/concealed-carry-handgun/16346/firearms-publication-november-2018

Probably most important to OP is this, as to getting an NC CCP:

b. Pay a non-refundable fee of $80.00;
c. Allow the sheriff’s office to take two (2) full sets of fingerprints, which may cost
up to $10.00;
d. Provide an original certificate of completion of an approved handgun safety
course; and
e. Provide a release authorizing disclosure to the sheriff of any record concerning the
applicant’s mental health or capacity. m the time mental health records are received to either
issue or deny a permit. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-415.15(a). In order for an applicant to be approved,
he/she must:

1. Be a citizen of the United States or have been lawfully admitted for permanent
residence in the United States;

2. Have been a resident of the State of North Carolina for not less than thirty ( 30) days
immediately preceding the filing of the application

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So, OP probably needs to search out for online NC handgun safety classes, and wait 30 days.

CapnMac said:

This looks to be useful reading: https://ncdoj.gov/download/98/concealed-carry-handgun/16346/firearms-publication-november-2018

Probably most important to OP is this, as to getting an NC CCP:


So, OP probably needs to search out for online NC handgun safety classes, and wait 30 days.

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No online permit will allow him to buy a gun in NC. An online out of state (I know people use a non resident permit from va) ccw will allow you to carry in NC. But won't let you purchase a handgun

So, if one moves to NC and already posses a handgun, what, if anything, must be done?

Bazoo said:

So, if one moves to NC and already posses a handgun, what, if anything, must be done?

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Nothing. No registry.

crestoncowboy said:

ccw will allow you to carry in NC. But won't let you purchase a handgun

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I was focusing on how OP could get a CCP.
OP is coming out of CA, so, will probably not have CHP of any sort.
CCP requires only "proof" of having taken a class.
The online "safety" classes have gotten more widespread with Constitutional Carry.
Now, there was nothing in what I looked up on whether NC required and "in person" (or "in state") class.
So, I was hoping for some NC resident input on that.

CapnMac said:

I was focusing on how OP could get a CCP.
OP is coming out of CA, so, will probably not have CHP of any sort.
CCP requires only "proof" of having taken a class.
The online "safety" classes have gotten more widespread with Constitutional Carry.
Now, there was nothing in what I looked up on whether NC required and "in person" (or "in state") class.
So, I was hoping for some NC resident input on that.

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I am an NC resident. I know it USED to be in person. Maybe 3 years ago. They also had to keep the target you shot. Which had to be shot from 1-3 5 and 7 yards. The full size b29 needed to have 75% hit rate in the black (which would be nearly impossible to miss at 7 yards) They later dropped the 1 yard. Ive had mine for 20 years but my dad and uncle had the Sheriff come out and do their course not long ago (He does that in his spare time). The class has to be x amount of hours too. My class was all le and competitive shooters. Many of our hours were filled with youtube and arguing over brands since we all knew the safety and manual of arms and such. There was one last with a 357 max that I didn't know and an older couple that weren't stellar though. The instructor did show them how to clean and disassemble their weapons and such.

I also know that many people were getting an online "non resident" Virginia permit. And since NC and VA share reciprocity its valid in NC.

Very loophole-ish IMO but it's an option.

crestoncowboy said:

I also know that many people were getting an online "non resident" Virginia permit. And since NC and VA share reciprocity its valid in NC.

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Does the VA permit equal the NC CCP for purchasing?
I'll guess that there's no residency requirement for the VA Non-Resident permit. Which might be faster for OP, as they coming from CA, and need a dose of freedom sooner rather than later. At least for my 2¢

CapnMac said:

Does the VA permit equal the NC CCP for purchasing?
I'll guess that there's no residency requirement for the VA Non-Resident permit. Which might be faster for OP, as they coming from CA, and need a dose of freedom sooner rather than later. At least for my 2¢

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No. That's what I was getting at in the first post about it. It allows you to carry. But your drivers license has to be current and you have to be nc resident to buy a handgun in NC.

If they feel they must "be free" they could open carry. Lol. Perfectly legal. Not my thing, but it's not rare at all. Even in Raleigh, Charlotte, Wilmington, Winston etc.

crestoncowboy said:

If they feel they must "be free" they could open carry. Lol. Perfectly legal. Not my thing, but it's not rare at all

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That might be a "bridge too far" for those from the closeted gun community in CA.

I will freely admit I did not look up NC DL requirements. OP might have to wait until they have a utility bill.

I can remember back in the dark ages when you contracted for local services you'd have an actual, paper, copy of the deal, to "show" for residency purposes. Not that near everything is online, I wonder how complicated that has become. Showing the DMV clerk the text on your phone could be complicated.

I think the NC purchasing process has been beaten to death in this post. Anything else to say about the op’s questions ? I frequently visit the area and would love to know some places to shoot, public ranges? Decent private ranges?

thanks

Blackstone in Charlotte has a nice indoor range. I'm in west NC where we all have a hundred acres so there are no ranges to speak of. No need. Wilkesboro has Duncan's indoor. On over in Tennessee there are several outdoor places near the NC/TN VA corner.

As far as ranges go, the fanciest one there which doubles as a gun store (including NFA stuff) is Triangle Shooting Academy. There's a few county gun clubs within a reasonable distance as well.