ruger blackhawk 357/9mm convertible 4 5/8 redirection oops was looking for

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20220815_194744.jpg a ruger old army a friend mentioned he saw in a used gun case... he was not sure on the price- thought 700 or 900 ... he could not remember and I was curios so I went to the shop.they wanted 975 for it... I lost interest but I saw a like new in box/NIB with 4 5/8 convertible listed at 799... I offered 600 n she countered at 700... I did not want to pay that for one but I have been looking halfway for a 4 5/8 especially or even any "deal" on a .357 blackhawk let alone a convertible and they all seem to be going over 500/600 without the 9mm cylinder, I have not seen any blackhawks in shops for a long time let alone reasonable and as I thought about it and while it was 100 more than I wanted to pay I thought they are likely only going up and this is nice enough so gave in.... so not what I was going to scope out but something I have had on the radar and besides I do have a birthday coming up and the cat n chickens wont protest so what the heck.

so was 700 out the door no transfer fees an ok deal for now?
 
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BigBlue 94 said:
Sounds good to me, given the demand and supply (or lack thereof).

I see blackhawks going for 700 to 1000 at auction all the time. A 30 carbine BH recently went for 3200 :what:
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thats what I figured.. then add sales tax and ffl n such I figured I am ahead and I get the extra cylinder. In the box with the papers n such also- I am just old enough to remember the days pf 200.00 super blackhawks... I am apparently now one of them old guys :p
 
conan32120 said:
9mm shooting a .355 cal bullet does accuracy not suffer in a .357 cal barrel?
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It didn't in the .357/9mm Blackhawk I had. Or maybe I'm just not a good enough shot to see any difference. :D
I remember the .357s did group higher than the 9mms though. Of course, at 15 - 20 yards it was to be expected that the handloaded, .357, 158gr SWCs wouldn't group in the same place as the cheap, storebought, 9mm 115gr FMJs. :thumbup:
 
Hard for me to tell due to the pic shading but it appears to be a flattop. If it’s a flattop it’s a distributors exclusive from Lipseys. Flattops look better to me. Nice score. We can debate the price you paid but it won’t really mean anything. You bought a quality piece that will last 2 lifetimes of hard use at a time when they’re almost impossible to come across. What’s a $100 plus or minus? A box of primers at best. I love shooting mine.
 
I have a 357 Mag/9mm and 22RF/22WMR convertibles Ruger revolvers.

The 9mm cylinder has never been fired and the 22WMR cylinder has been fired a few times.

I can see a value for the 22WMR cylinder as you get a bit more oomph shooting the magnum round vs then standard 22 LR rifle ammunition. The rimfire ammunition cannot be reloaded conveniently.

But, since I reload, I can load what ever load I want in 38 Special cases or 357 Magnum cases and shoot till the cows come home. I doubt my 9x19 cylinder will ever see a fired round through it while it is in my position.

I can see some use for the convertible cylinder but if one reloads, it is a moot point.

I do have some 45 ACP revolvers that require the use of half moon or full moon cilps to handle reloads. It is a bit different requirement for a DA/SA revolver than what is required for loading a SA revolver like the Blackhawk.

Heck, I have three S&W j-frames machined to accept 38 Special cases loaded inn a moon clip. Fast reloads, and fast unloads vs standard reloading practices with j-frames.

I suppose if one does not reload, it does provide an option for an alternate cartridge when shooting the revolver. I just feel there is too much emphasis placed on the convertibke revolvers these days.
 
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Hard for me to tell due to the pic shading but it appears to be a flattop. If it’s a flattop it’s a distributors exclusive from Lipseys. Flattops look better to me. Nice score. We can debate the price you paid but it won’t really mean anything. You bought a quality piece that will last 2 lifetimes of hard use at a time when they’re almost impossible to come across. What’s a $100 plus or minus? A box of primers at best. I love shooting mine.
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not a flat top... I cant take a good pic to save my butt... my old camera phone is not great. The 100 plus or minus was what made me go for it...I thought that as I was gonna walk away... I will try to get some better picts later
 
cfullgraf said:
I have a 357 Mag/9mm and 22RF/22WMR convertibles Ruger revolvers.

The 9mm cylinder has never been fired and the 22WMR cylinder has been fired a few times.

I can see a value for the 22WMR cylinder as you get a bit more oomph shooting the magnum round vs then standard 22 LR rifle ammunition. The rimfire ammunition cannot be reloaded conveniently.

But, since I reload, I can load what ever load I want in 38 Special cases or 357 Magnum cases and shoot till the cows come home. I doubt my 9x19 cylinder will ever see a fired round through it while it is in my position.

I can see some use for the convertible cylinder but if one reloads, it is a moot point.


I suppose if one does not reload, it does provide an option for an alternate cartridge when shooting the revolver. I just feel there is too much emphasis placed on the convertible revolvers these days.
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well I might reload and may understand the versatility of such activities :rofl:...one of a few benches- this section is some of the blue ones- another sl950 and a 550 are on other benches and I have red green and black presses mixed in/availableo_O and no it is not a moot point to have the 9mm cylinder. I have a lot of 9mm brass and brass is still cheap and easy to find in bulk. if I am out in the field loosing a few cases would not be as bad as loosing 38/357 cases :what: even if loosing brass using a single action cowboy gun is not as easy as other actions! I always wanted one and having options is not always bad. I do prefer the 38/357 over 9 in general but the nine has a place in the stable-even if not a major use in this gun. And BTW the convertibles have been popular for a loooong time!
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I think the price you paid is fair for the times we are in and the versatility. As others have mentioned, and like I tell my wife, will you remember 100-200 dollars one way or the other in 5 years or 10? Or will you remember more the enjoyment you got out of it?
 
ontarget said:
I have been on the hunt for a 4.62 barrel Blackhawk in 45 Colt for a looong time.
I came across a 4.62 in 357 and didn't think twice!
Not exactly what I was looking for but I wasn't about to pass it up.
Still looking for the 45 though.:)
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I have a few 45 colt 7.5's... one a convertible but I also want a short 45... but I did get a .44 4 5/8 and a 5.5 a few years back right before the prices jumped to these levels... they will do for the big bores... until i find the short .45 at a deal I want. untill then I need to go shoot n spend some time with them... I havent done much of that for way too long!
 
The 4.6" barrel is a good length for hiking or w/e, but still plenty accurate, especially with those nice big Blackhawk sights.

My "convertible" seems to shoot most 9mm and 38 special to pretty much the same POI. I'm not that great of a shot. YMMV.
 
I like the convertible concept. Ruger was ahead of his time in that regard. You now have the option to pair it with long gun should you chose to. I bet there’s at least a few on this site that carry a Blackhawk with the 9mm cylinder inserted while also toting a Marlin Camp Carbine or Rugers version around the woods, farm or ranch.

BTW…nice reloading set up you got there.
 
tallpaul said:
View attachment 1096581 a ruger old army a friend mentioned he saw in a used gun case... he was not sure on the price- thought 700 or 900 ... he could not remember and I was curios so I went to the shop.they wanted 975 for it... I lost interest but I saw a like new in box/NIB with 4 5/8 convertible listed at 799... I offered 600 n she countered at 700... I did not want to pay that for one but I have been looking halfway for a 4 5/8 especially or even any "deal" on a .357 blackhawk let alone a convertible and they all seem to be going over 500/600 without the 9mm cylinder, I have not seen any blackhawks in shops for a long time let alone reasonable and as I thought about it and while it was 100 more than I wanted to pay I thought they are likely only going up and this is nice enough so gave in.... so not what I was going to scope out but something I have had on the radar and besides I do have a birthday coming up and the cat n chickens wont protest so what the heck.

so was 700 out the door no transfer fees an ok deal for now?
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My opinion, it’s a good deal. That’s thousands of hours of fun in a box. :)
 
Frulk said:
I like the convertible concept. Ruger was ahead of his time in that regard. You now have the option to pair it with long gun should you chose to. I bet there’s at least a few on this site that carry a Blackhawk with the 9mm cylinder inserted while also toting a Marlin Camp Carbine or Rugers version around the woods, farm or ranch.

BTW…nice reloading set up you got there.
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Have 357 n 9mm n 44 carbines ... It was popular in the 80's has worked for a long time for many
 
Nice revolver!

Personally, I prefer the shorter barrels solely for asthetic reasons.

I had a 7.5" Super Blackhawk for a few years but I never warmed up to that long barrel.

LGS has a new 5.5" .357 Blackhawk for sub $600 ($567 or $597, can't remember)

First one I've seen for awhile.

Anybody know if Ruger would fit a 9mm cylinder?
Cost?

One of my "grail guns" is a 5.5" stainless Bisley .45Colt/.45 ACP but those are harder to find than an honest politician.
 
I think you did well, any doubts re: price will fade in time.

In these times where the availability of ammo and reloading components differs from day to day, having a second option for ammunition is certainly worthwhile.
 
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