Just ordered my 1st Suppressor, what next!!!

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I’m for filling my dream of buying a suppressor. Got the Banish 45 and free Banish 22K. Bought from Silencer Central, and looks like they are doing most of the paper work.

So what’s the Next Step in Suppressor ownership

I am a hand-loader and will be making some 147g Subsonic loads!
 
... and get some anti-seize. Figure out what other cans you want and get them purchased. IF you are lucky, they will all be approved at the same time cutting the wait on the 2nd batch to a lot shorter time than the 1st batch.

Do you have a recommendation for an anti-seize?
 
Should be less than a year if you filed electronically.

The first one I filed electronically took three months. This latest one is on month six.

You'll like those Banish cans and that was a really good deal they had going-on.

Next investment? Depending upon caliber specific ... I really like my Q products. Especially my Thunder Chicken which is insanely quiet with my subsonic 300 BLK handloads at 1000 fps.

Just remember ... threaded barrels are added expenses so chose wisely and carefully and match thread counts. I type this because I see you have 45-70 on your list.
 
Already eyeballing rifle suppressor! thinking something for a 223/308 and 45/70, .458 SC, 50 BW

My advice here, whatever you go with, is don't try to cover all of those with one can. The big bore suppressors universally suck with high velocity small bore rounds, our own models are no exception.

Your .50 cal options for the Beowulf are pretty limited, only production one that comes to mind is the Bowers VERS 50, which is a monstrous aluminum thing that frankly does not impress me, especially at the price point.

I think Rex will bore for .50, and we can also do that with our Accipiter model. But in either case, you're looking at fully welded all-stainless cans, which is a consideration if you plan to use any cast bullet loads.

For the .30 rifle can, lots of good options. Obviously I'm partial to our own models, but there are many quality suppressors to cover your .30 cal & under needs. It can be narrowed a bit by prioritizing between length, weight, suppression requirements, diameter constraints, mounting preferences.
 
My advice here, whatever you go with, is don't try to cover all of those with one can. The big bore suppressors universally suck with high velocity small bore rounds, our own models are no exception.

Your .50 cal options for the Beowulf are pretty limited, only production one that comes to mind is the Bowers VERS 50, which is a monstrous aluminum thing that frankly does not impress me, especially at the price point.

I think Rex will bore for .50, and we can also do that with our Accipiter model. But in either case, you're looking at fully welded all-stainless cans, which is a consideration if you plan to use any cast bullet loads.

For the .30 rifle can, lots of good options. Obviously I'm partial to our own models, but there are many quality suppressors to cover your .30 cal & under needs. It can be narrowed a bit by prioritizing between length, weight, suppression requirements, diameter constraints, mounting preferences.
thanks for the information, I’m new to suppressor and the whole process is very intimidating. I’m sure it will get easier over time. I see myself buying a good hand full of them over time. Love the idea of not loosing my hearing from target shooting
 
Should be less than a year if you filed electronically.

The first one I filed electronically took three months. This latest one is on month six.

You'll like those Banish cans and that was a really good deal they had going-on.

Next investment? Depending upon caliber specific ... I really like my Q products. Especially my Thunder Chicken which is insanely quiet with my subsonic 300 BLK handloads at 1000 fps.

Just remember ... threaded barrels are added expenses so chose wisely and carefully and match thread counts. I type this because I see you have 45-70 on your list.
I have a good handful of 45/70 rifles and i kinda want to suppress my Ruger #1 45/70. Look like silencers central thread barrels for $100 starting! Tell them to thread to their product and test fire too.
 
once I figure out the tax stamp and finger print stuff out. I straight up don’t trust anything ATF tax stamp, so the convenience of Silencers Central is good for starters

Maybe I misunderstood....................but you don't need a stamp to thread a barrel.....................

But, I hope your stamp(s) are on the lesser wait times..............:thumbup:
 
once I figure out the tax stamp and finger print stuff out. I straight up don’t trust anything ATF tax stamp, so the convenience of Silencers Central is good for starters

Best way for fingerprinting is Printscan. They have locations all over, it's a digital file that is good for 3 years and is submitted to ATF electronically with your F4 or F1 application.

eforms is really very easy if you have a competent local SOT. Absent an issue with file size (like scanned trust docs that are large image files), we can usually submit an eform4 in under 20 minutes.

I understand the appeal of the "to your door" service, but what many don't know is that it adds considerable time. So people have to decide if they'd rather deal with a transfer fee and get their can sooner or wait for the delivery service. And in some states, that service isn't available; here in CO, it has to go through an FFL and a CBI check done at the time of physical transfer. I'm not sure what other states are like that, but there is zero advantage to the service if you're in one of them.
 
Best way for fingerprinting is Printscan. They have locations all over, it's a digital file that is good for 3 years and is submitted to ATF electronically with your F4 or F1 application.

eforms is really very easy if you have a competent local SOT. Absent an issue with file size (like scanned trust docs that are large image files), we can usually submit an eform4 in under 20 minutes.

I understand the appeal of the "to your door" service, but what many don't know is that it adds considerable time. So people have to decide if they'd rather deal with a transfer fee and get their can sooner or wait for the delivery service. And in some states, that service isn't available; here in CO, it has to go through an FFL and a CBI check done at the time of physical transfer. I'm not sure what other states are like that, but there is zero advantage to the service if you're in one of them.
they are sending me a fingerprint print card and doing a trust. Once that’s set up, will efile be easier?
 
No, not really, especially if the trust is anything like Silencer Shop's "single shot" trust.

Trusts used to be a workaround for the CLEO sign-off requirement on individual applications and not having to do pics & prints. 41F changed that, made the pics/prints for all trustees a requirement, but also did away with the CLEO sign-off requirement on individual applications. So trusts today only have two advantages:

-1, multiple parties may be able to possess the item if they are trustees, and
-2, simplifies succession if something happens to you; one of the other trustees can simply take possession without the need for Form 5, which is tax free but still takes time and submission of prints/pics like F1 or F4.

As for paper cards, they are required with every submission. That's why we recommend Printscan; you don't need to go anywhere or try to roll your own for each application, simply attach the file to the eforms submission.

You may be able to use printed cards from the Printscan file with Silencer Central or send them the digital file, but you'd have to ask them. If so, that would be a better option, as you'll be able to use that file for all submissions for the next 3 years.

If you don't have a good local SOT, NFA stuff can be a headache, and that's why some people really like Silencer Central's programs for to-your-front-door. But you do pay for the one-stop integrated process in the purchase price; their cans are significantly more expensive than similar and often better units from other manufacturers. Their .45 can, for example is about $300 more than other top tier .45 pistol suppressors. You got in on the free rimfire can deal, so perhaps not as painful if the little thing performs decently, but if it weren't for that, the Banish 45 ($949) would be more expensive than a Rugged Obsidian ($687 w/piston), our Phoenix XLV ($669 w/piston), SilencerCo Octane 45 ($570 w/piston) and others, even with the shipping costs and transfer fees on those (most SOTs are somewhere in the $75 to $150 range on NFA transfers)

If you can find a local SOT who knows what they're doing, efile is really easy.

Something to consider going forward is mount compatibility. Most manufactuers have adopted 1.375-24 Bravo Pattern for rifle cans and many use 1.125-28 Alpha pattern for pistol cans. This allows switching of mounts with many options from direct thread to taper mounts, QD, 3 lug, etc. Silencer Central's stuff is all their own proprietary thread, so they'll only work with whatever accessories they offer.

I am working on a post to be a sticky here explaining more about mounting systems and compatibility, but it's a bit of an undertaking to make it both comprehensive and understandable for folks who aren't machinists or particularly well versed in the world of suppressors
 
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