you have 1100 for a wood stocked rifle

KsSkaEnthusiast said:
I have been consolidating my collection of firearms for space as i move for dental school and am moving into 2 wood stocked hunting rifles to keep long term. I currently have a sauer 100 in 6.5creed with a razor lht 3-15x42 and want to pair it up with something most likely in 30-06 or something of that power range. Budget of $1100 for the rifle itself what do you get any why?
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I have mostly Remington 700s and have 5. They've always functioned well, after break-in and are one of the less-expensive, but most accurate hunting rifles around. Yes, there are other rifles that are excellent, including Winchester model 70s, Saco bolt rifles, Browning bolts, and others.
 
351 WINCHESTER said:
Most hunters don't expect a gun to discharge when they take the gun off safe, but this is exactly what enough Remingtons did.
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Unless you're privy to information I've not seen, the only way that could occasionally be duplicated on a gun that was in good working order with a properly adjusted trigger was to deliberately pull the trigger with the safety on, then disengage the safety without first manipulating the bolt. Even at that, it was very rare to induce a malfunction.

351 WINCHESTER said:
Remington should have listened to Walker and designed and produced a trigger with a real safety that actually blocks the firing pin keeping it from striking the primer until it is disengaged and the trigger pulled, but they chose to be cheap and it caused death and destruction of individuals and famlies for decades and continues to do so.
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No, negligence on the part of the handlers caused death and destruction. Even if we assume the alleged incidents actually did involve a firearm malfunction, it is still on the people who disregarded rule #2 and had the weapon pointed in an unsafe direction while chambering a round or disengaging the safety. Doing so is at least as stupid as crawling under a floor jacked car without wheel chocks and jackstands, or assuming that a circuit breaker box is labeled correctly. And people die doing those things all the time.
 
bearcreek said:
What will you be hunting?
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primarily whitetails with the capability to score an elk of muley hunt with potentially a great deal of walking. I really like the tikkas but that 1 in 11 twist comes across as kind of wonky. Those with them how do they stabilize the 165 and 180 grain bullets?
 
KsSkaEnthusiast said:
primarily whitetails with the capability to score an elk of muley hunt with potentially a great deal of walking. I really like the tikkas but that 1 in 11 twist comes across as kind of wonky. Those with them how do they stabilize the 165 and 180 grain bullets?
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I have one in .308 and it does very well. Under 1/2 MOA with 165 gr. Barnes TSX bullets.
 
Savage did and still does build quality rifles that are robust and accurate. Somebody mentioned Tikka. I have a Tikka and love it.

Truth be told, one doesn't have to take out a second mortgage on one's house to acquire a fine rifle. Spending under $700 on the rifle and under $300 on the scope can provide one a fine rifle package.

If one needs "fancy", will be shooting at LONG distance, or will be shooting in competition, then sure, this might require a better rifle plus a scope costing more than $300. However, I take it that these are not parameters you require. Good luck on finding the rifle/scope combo you require at a very affordable price. I'm certain that you can. :thumbup::)
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KsSkaEnthusiast said:
primarily whitetails with the capability to score an elk of muley hunt with potentially a great deal of walking. I really like the tikkas but that 1 in 11 twist comes across as kind of wonky. Those with them how do they stabilize the 165 and 180 grain bullets?
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Sako/Tikka seem to twist all their barrels (except those specifically spec'd faster) on the slow side, but they all stabilize the normal weight/length hunting bullets. Ive worked with probably 1/2 dozen t3s, a few Sakos (including owning an S20) and all have been very accurate with standard hunting bullets up to the heaviest weight range the cartridge generally shoots.
 
MachIVshooter said:
There's nothing wrong with the Walker trigger. There is something wrong with people who tinker with them without the know-how to properly adjust for sufficient sear engagement. There's also a problem with folks who leave their hunting rifle in a closet 11.5 months out of the year, then take it out, fire a few shots and proceed to toss the weapon in the back seat and drag it through the woods in wet, muddy or dusty environments, then put it back in the closet when they come home, never bothering to clean beyond maybe the bore and a bolt wipe down.

Any firearm can malfunction with dirt & debris, corrosion or sticky, dried out lubricants in mechanical assemblies. There's just a lot of Remingtons out there, nearly 8 million with the Walker trigger, so more of them that suffered fudd neglect and hack trigger adjustment than other sporters.

I have quite a few Remingtons with Walker triggers, never an issue. But I have had other firearms bought used that dropped hammer/striker/firing pin without pulling the trigger because they were dirty, had worn or broken parts, or because someone who shouldn't have screwed with them. I don't blame the gun design, and observing the 4 basic safety rules prevented any injury or damage from resulting.
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My brothers 7mm mag had a bone stock, un monkeyed with trigger that would occasionally drop the sear coming off safety. After the third time we put a timney in it. His father in law bought it new and never messed with it. That trigger was the cleanest, newest, most un worn looking part I've ever replaced. The real problems may be few and far between, but I personally fixed a bad one in that rifle. Not to say most weren't tweaked too much by some bubba.

Edit to add: not trying to be argumentative @MachIVshooter, I just personally witnessed one.
 
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As a 30-06 hunter I have only used a Savage or a Tikka. Both very very accurate rifles. I'm sure there are other good rifles but cannot recommend them as I have no experience with them.
 
KsSkaEnthusiast said:
I have been consolidating my collection of firearms for space as i move for dental school and am moving into 2 wood stocked hunting rifles to keep long term. I currently have a sauer 100 in 6.5creed with a razor lht 3-15x42 and want to pair it up with something most likely in 30-06 or something of that power range. Budget of $1100 for the rifle itself what do you get any why?
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First thing I would do is sell the 6.5 Whatever. Then I'd buy a pre-64 Winchester Model 70 in 30-06. One rifle to hunt them all. If you don't want to hunt with a collector's item, my no choice would be a Savage 110 Classic in 30-06.
 
I have an older savage 110 in 270 that I’m in the process of rebarreling to a faster twist so that’d be too similar in my book
 
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