How many inches 22lr?

Yes, 16" is enough barrel. Why are you worried about velocity?Whatever difference there is going to be between a 16 and 20" barrel in velocity probably won't matter in use. I'd go from the 16". I shot one yesterday and it is a very handy size.

Aside from my competition rifles, all of the rifles that I use while hiking or for hunting have short barrels for the sake of ease of carry. My .22, 16", 7.62x39 bolt action, 16", .308 bolt action, 18". I love em.
 
I agree with the other guys, no effect on accuracy.

My Bergara B14R has an 18" barrel.. unfortunately, cause the balance frankly sucks.

I had to add quite a bit of weight to get it right:

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They're now offering a 20" barrel in addition, which with a tuner installed should be about perfect.
 
velocity?Whatever difference there is going to be between a 16 and 20" barrel in velocity probably won't matter in use.
Unless buying premium ammo of a specific lot, it's just as likely to get more deviation in velocity from the same box of ammo in the same rifle than the difference caused by barrel length of 2 different rifles.
 
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Do you guys ever pay special attention on a specific barrel length when selecting a new .22 rimfire rifle?
I'm not saying it's a bad idea, just one that I don't usually spend much time thinking about.

Granted, I've considered barrel length, stiffness, twist, etc. in the context of building a modular rifle like my 10/22s, but that's a different question. I'm choosing a barrel then, not an entire rifle.

When choosing a rifle, I devote far more attention to build quality, function, appearance and reputed accuracy.
 
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Do you guys ever pay special attention on a specific barrel length when selectin a new .22 rimfire rifle?
I'm not saying it's a bad idea, just one that I don't usually spend much time thinking about.

Granted, I've considered barrel length, stiffness, twist, etc. in the context of building a modular rifle like my 10/22s, but that's a different question. I'm choosing a barrel then, not an entire rifle. For that I devote far more attention to build quality, function, appearance and reputed accuracy.

Only when it's set up for a specific purpose.

Years ago I had a custom 1885 Low-Wall built to mirrior my silhouette rifle. I had a 30" barrel put on to mimic the big gun with weight, balance and sight radius. The 30" barrel with .22LR velocities also pretty much matched the dwell time for my "big gun".

 
For a field .22 LR?

This one is outstanding for the money.

Ruger RAR compact (18" barrel)/short stock/Tech-Sights aperture sights (drilled out to 3/32", which is equivalent to a 24" M1 Rifle w/ 0.072" USGI aperture.)

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Hello! I’m just looking for buy one tikka t1x in 22lr but I have seen the barrel , it has 16”. Is it enough to take advantage the speed and precision?

Thanks!
As others have pointed out, 16" is enough for muzzle velocity. As @CraigC mentioned, there are other reasons to consider longer barrels, depending upon how you'll use the gun and what's most important to you.

This thread triggered to thinking more on the general topic of choosing a rifle, whether choosing what barrel length to buy, or just choosing a rifle out of the safe to take to the range....

I have about 20 or so .22 Rimfire rifles, with barrels ranging from 16" to 28". Generally speaking, the guns with the longer and heavier profile barrels will out-shoot the shorter and/or thinner profile barrels. If both guns have the same profile barrel, the longer ones (in my assortment) will just slightly out shoot the shorter ones if both are shooting their favorite ammo that I've identified to date. The differences are most noticeable when shooting from a good bench-type setup (because you can minimize other factors that may be hindering accuracy), and less noticeable in certain other situations. In some cases the shorter, lighter profile barrel might out-shoot the heavier gun, but IME this tends to be due to the lighter weight and related advantages under the shooting circumstances, such as off-hand, out-of-position, or otherwise when the heavier gun is just not the best choice.

Some of the reasons one may shoot better with the longer, usually heavier, guns are that they tend to ride the bags (the shooting rests) better, and they are more likely to maintain their set-up and positioning shot-after-shot. Also, the extra weight makes them less susceptible to shake from my heartbeat, breathing, etc. They just settle in a bit better and tend to be slightly more consistent.

Another big factor for me is that I like the reduced muzzle blast and dB from the longer barrels. This is especially the case with a 26-28" barrel, which is safe to fire with SV ammo without hearing protection, making the shooting experience about 2x more enjoyable for me (I usually shoot by myself, not at public ranges with somebody blasting away next to me). A 24" barrel is not very loud, but by the time you get to 26+, it's almost like shooting with a suppressor (my guns and SV ammo are this way, I assume others are as well).

There's also the sighting radius thing if shooting iron sights, but I don't shoot irons for accuracy, so it's not much of a factor for me.

Here are some examples. Except for the Winchester Model 52, these are all CZ/Brno guns. That means that the bolts, receivers, triggers, and all are the same. The only real differences are in barrel length and profile, the stock configurations and resulting weight. IMO, that makes the barrel comparisons more valid than if we were comparing, for example, a Ruger, a Bergara, a CZ, a Tikka, and a Savage.

Some examples:

CZ 452 Scout with 16.25" Barrel: This gun is the same quality as the full-size CZs, same receiver, bolt, trigger, etc., just in a very compact stock with a short, thin-profile barrel. It is one of my most accurate .22 LR rifles. If the guns were all shot from a vise of some sort, I expect it'd be near the top of the group. But in real-world, hands-on shooting, given its 33" overall length and about 5 pounds weight, it is much harder to shoot groups that are as tight as some of the larger guns.
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452 American with 22.5" standard weight barrel: This is a great all-around gun, weighs about 6.1 pounds without a scope. I've shot a lot of .5" groups at 50 yards with ammo such as SK Standard Plus and Pistol Match. I think the accuracy potential of this gun is about the same as the Scout above, but this one is easier to shoot the good groups with due to the larger size and weight.
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453 Varmint with 20.9" Heavy barrel: This gun is heavier than the American above, and the stock is slightly wider, both of which helps it ride the bags a little better. It will out-shoot the American, and it's easier to shoot the better groups.
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BRNO Model 4 with 27.5" Heavy barrel: The BRNO guns were the precursors to the CZ 452s, and are very similar with many/most parts interchangeable. This is a relatively easy gun to shoot good groups with from a bench or other good rest. I've shot a lot of .3" groups with it at 50 yards, some better. It is 45" long and weighs a little over 10 pounds with the scope.
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Winchester Model 52B with 28" standard barrel and stock (a little lighter than the more common Heavy Target Model 52): This is a pretty similar gun to the Model 4 above, same length, the stock is slightly "trimmer" in build, and about the same weight for the gun and scope. It is at least as accurate, probably a little more so. (I've never had the two side-by-side in the same range setting, both with ammo that they favor, so I'm not 100% sure which is more accurate.)
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So, it all depends upon the trade-offs you're inclined to make, and what's important to you. For me, given my ideal situation of some alone time at the range with a good bench or similar set-up, I don't think I have any gun that I enjoy shooting more than the Model 52 above. However, if I'm heading off on a 5 mile walk, I'd much rather carry the Scout. For other tasks, I'd choose other guns still, possibly not any of the above. If I had to have only one all-around gun, it'd be hard to decide. I'd probably think about what most of my shooting would entail, how much of it from the bench and how much of it walking around/plinking, etc., and choose accordingly.

By the way, I have similar situation with my Centerfire rifles, and again, my guns with the longer heavier barrels slightly out shoot my shorter, thinner barrels.
 
You will see Smallbore Prone competitors with Bloop Tubes on the end of their barrels.

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A bloop tube is a tube, no rifling, with a mechanical fastener to keep the thing attached when shooting, and then to take it off to fit in the gun case. The shooter wants a long sight radius with irons, and also wants the fastest bullet they can have. The rifled barrel is at least 16 inches, because that is the theoretical maximum expansion of gunpowder in a 22lr.

Bloop tubes are not trouble free. If they are not cleaned internally each and every match, accuracy deteriorates. That is what I was told, I don't have bloop tubes, and I am not a good iron sight shooter either. Most bloop tube shooters keep the things on when shooting scope, they just reverse the thing so the front sight base is pointing down, so it is not in the line of sight of the scope. Sometimes they leave the front sight on. I would not do that as I am a klutz and would inevitably have a busted front sight. The things can be hundreds of dollars.
Wow, I've been making my own "bloop tubes" for years. Kind of. Just some metal tube I silver solder on. And much shorter, only about 4" long. I've put them on rifles that previous owners have cut down to 16". The only function of mine are to eliminate the stubbly look of a 16" barrel. And it looks cool, kind of like a muzzle brake or something. Never knew it was a "thing". !!!
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Three bottom three rifles have bloop tubes. Yes, I know they aren't really bloop tubes, but that's what I'm going to call them.
 
A 24" barrel is not very loud, but by the time you get to 26+, it's almost like shooting with a suppressor
My Mossberg, bottom rifle in the pic I posted, Has a long barrel, I forget if it's a 22" or 24", but with low velocity ammo, such as CCI Quiets, the report is about the same as as a .25 caliber air rifle. That rifle is extremely accurate with that ammo.
 
I don't compete so rifle look and balance is pretty important.
Of course accuracy is, but I'm content w sub .5" at 50 yards.
 
Do you guys ever pay special attention on a specific barrel length when selecting a new .22 rimfire rifle?
I'm not saying it's a bad idea, just one that I don't usually spend much time thinking about.

Granted, I've considered barrel length, stiffness, twist, etc. in the context of building a modular rifle like my 10/22s, but that's a different question. I'm choosing a barrel then, not an entire rifle.

When choosing a rifle, I devote far more attention to build quality, function, appearance and reputed accuracy.

I pay attention to specific barrel lengths. Sometimes it's because I want something light and handy. Sometimes it's because I'm trying to reach a certain balance point and sometimes it's because I'm trying to reach a specific velocity range based on the manufacturer of the barrel.

But for purposes of the topic of this discussion, I'd go with the 16" because it will make for a slick rifle.

Man, I still have that T1x on my mind, ever since I shot it last weekend. I'm gonna have to handle a CZ Scout soon to refresh my memory and hopefully push the thoughts of the Tikka out of my head.
 
Know guys doing NRL22 stuff.
Theyre way more picky than me.
Spending the big bucks they are.
Crazy groups at 100 yards ( and beyond ).
 
I got a Savage MKII TR and slapped a Leupold 6-18X Freedom on it.
Haven't even really tested it.
Its OK for a bench rig. But my knees messed up and I aint doing any funky position shooting (like NRL22).
Its big and ugly, and the only reason I still have it, is in case a family member wants to shoot a few on the range.
Honestly, I have no use for a sporter .22lr, as I gave up squirrel hunting way back.
And punching paper, testing ammo.............BTDT, its boring for me anymore.
Ive burned a lot of .22 (when younger).
Growing up shooting, not much interests me anymore.

Deer season has sucked so maybe Im just extra cranky.
 
Yes my tikka T1X MTR is the most accurate rimfire I own and with certain match ammo I’ve seen the proverbial one hole groups at 50 yards folks are after
What rings o Rail would You recommend me for the tikka t1x for shoot 100m?
Finally I’m waiting for one in 22lr.

Any rings for 11mm dovetail works good?
 
In a target rifle I am more interested in how heavy the barrel is than the length. My best rifle is long and heavy. Remington 540XR. But my sporter CZ's are close behind as well as my heavy barrel 10/22. 540XR at Range.jpg
 
A bloop tube is a tube, no rifling, with a mechanical fastener to keep the thing attached when shooting, and then to take it off to fit in the gun case. The shooter wants a long sight radius with irons, and also wants the fastest bullet they can have.

Then why is .22 match ammo subsonic? I know, they want to avoid the transonic range, so "fastest bullet" makes no sense.

dwell time

Right. An accurate rifle and a good shooter can find a difference in dwell time at 0 to 1050 fps launch.

A 24" barrel is not very loud, but by the time you get to 26+, it's almost like shooting with a suppressor

My elderly Walther single shot with 27" barrel was amazingly quiet with the old green and white paper box CCI SV. I haven't tried it with fresh stuff. My last outing was with some Wolf and SK which gave hard extraction, so I quit.
 
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I have two 27.5" guns, two 28", guns, and one 29.5" gun. All are a pleasure to shoot with subsonic ammo noise wise.
The one on the right (52B) has a 28" barrel. With SV it's pretty quiet. With CCI Quiets, it's my "shoot the starlings that crap in the back yard pool" rifle. It's quieter than any of my air rifles.
The 27" barrel on the 513T (second from left) isn't noticeably louder.
 
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