Why concealed weapon in some states and concealed handgun in others?

Because only darkies use switchblades and butterfly knives.

No really, that is the reason, at least originally. See Army-Navy law. Also educational is CA's various junk-handgun bans and the fact that in CA carrying a concealed handgun without a license is a misedemeanor while concealing a non-gun weapon like a switchblade is a felony. This type of law is aimed squarely at the poor, the blacks and the mexicans, just like NYs old laws were aimed squarely at irishmen and italians.

Some states just want to regulate you more. In California, it is a concealed "handgun" license....and it is only for the handgun that you qualified with...the make and model is on the license, and that is all you can carry. Then there is Florida.....they don't care what you conceal, knife, club, shotgun, whatever. It is a concealed "weapons" permit. But in either case, it is self registration. Once you get the permit, they not only know you have firearms, but the nerve to want to carry them.

Because statutes are written by groups of lawyers who turn it over to lawyers in the legislature who must mash it into pre-existing layers of laws after discussion and compromise in subcommittee and committee and conference committee. *room spinning*

[Used to date a young lady from the Legislative Services Agency, she would relate tales of hilarity of attempting to mash square pegs into round holes in the General Assembly]

Gee Tejon,

We'd almost think you worked in the court system for a living or something...


You can't give us any lawyer-english distionary links can you?

Things would be so much simpler if the government obeyed the limits set on it by the 2nd Amendment :banghead:

Things would be so much simpler if the government obeyed

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They are are elected representatives.

Because in a lot of states its already illegal to carry a host of weapons concealed and they want to except handguns.

...in CA carrying a concealed handgun without a license is a misedemeanor while concealing a non-gun weapon like a switchblade is a felony.

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Actually, I believe it's a misdemeanor to carry a registered hand gun concealed without a license in the People's Republic of California, whereas it's a felony to carry an unregistered hand gun concealed without a license.

Whuh? What do you mean a registered handgun?

in PA its a license to carry firearms,

taser,mace slungshot/blackjack etc require seperate (non existant)permits.

knives are a bit different. folders less than 2 1/2 inches are not weapons, period. greater lengths
concealed can be actionable.

switchblades/springknives are a no no..... with one out. ok if you are an amputee of one hand.
paralysis does not count, the hand must be missing.

act 235 and 120 qualified persons may get club/handcuff/mace quals.

open carry of swords is fine ... if you have a card from a reinactment group.

rms/pa
ps: YMMV on jurisdiction, time, place, and election cycle.

I know what you mean Beerslurpy. When I lived in Florida, I never used to understand references made to "registered" handguns, since we both know that in the "Gunshine" state this is a "huh?" But in the Free Peoples Democratic Republic of California, all handguns and a host of so called "assault weapons" need (at least are supposed) to be registered. BTW in California, unlike in Florida, there is no such thing as a private transfer (except maybe for a few C&R's) everything has to go thru a dealer. That way they can "DEROS" it. So even though technically your rifle and shotguns are not "registered", in fact they really are, thanks to the Dealer Record Of Sale. :banghead:

Beerslurpy and Standing Wolf,
Actually I think the way the section is written it is a felony to use an unregisterd weapon. I believe it still stays a misdemeanor for carrying it without a permit.

There is no firearm registration requirement in California except for assault weapon owners and personal handgun importers. However, you may submit a Firearm Ownership Record to the DOJ for any firearm you own. Having a Firearm Ownership Record on file with the DOJ may help in the return of your firearm if it is lost or stolen. With very few and specific exceptions, all firearm transactions must be conducted through a firearms dealer.

However, from DOJ's FAQ
I am moving into California and I own several handguns. What are the new-resident registration requirements?

You are considered to be a personal handgun importer as defined by California law. You may bring all of your otherwise California-legal firearms with you, but you must report all of your handguns to the DOJ within 60 days as required utilizing the New Resident Handgun Ownership Report. You are not required to report rifles or shotguns. You may not bring ammunition feeding devices with a capacity greater than ten rounds, machineguns, or assault weapons into California. (PC sections 12001(n), 12072(f)(2))

However there is a law that charges you with a felony for using a non-registered hand illegally. That might apply to carrying without a permit and probably will apply to defending youself unless it's a squeaky clean use.

So you could conceivebly commit a crime, felony, for defending yourself with a firearm you had when you moved into the state 25 years ago before the above sections were enrolled.

To obtain a list of firearms listed in your name, send a letter requesting this information to the Automated Firearms Unit, P.O. Box 820200, Sacramento, CA 94203-0200. The letter must be signed, notarized, and include a photocopy of your photo ID card (ie., driver's license or DMV ID).

I an not, nor do I play, a lawyer so this info is worth what you paid for it.

Tom

So you think a handgun purchased in KA is not registered?

Because the State Legislatures are independent entities that have their own opinions on what should be allowed.

That in itself is a good thing. I just don't like the laws most of them pass regarding keeping and bearing arms.

This reminds me of a similar problem that black people had after the civil war. Something to do with the local govts taking away their guns and congress passing the 14th amendment to prevent that.

But the 14th amendment was never meant to apply to the entire bill of rights! The ACLU said it so it must be true!

Machine pistols??????????????????????????

Ok, easy answer. Red zone is Republican controlled so you can carry a gun. Blue zone is the gun grabbing, commie zone so you can't carry a gun.

In Oregon,you can carry anything concealed,including Class 3,as long as you have a CCW.I got that from the county sheriff that signed my CCW.I'd assume with Class 3 you'd also need the BATF paperwork.