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First Fire for me and my WASR-3... not as expected, but i'm not gonna jump the gun and say it was a bad day at the range just yet, we all learn a little each day.

#1: When fired, it ejects shell, cocks hammer, but doesnt chamber the next round... ***? I gotta cock it for every shot! :uhoh: I went through 2 full mags to be sure it wasnt affiliated with that "very wobbly" magazine issue of mine.

My Hypothesis: either weak ammo (Wolf 62 gr. Copper FMJ), or as my gramps suggested, too much oil in the receiver... even when i got it good and hot, it did this to me. :fire:

So Far: I dried everything i could get a finger to in the receiver... ran some gun graphite stuff along the path of the bolt carrier and hammer.

Cant wait to go again now... :cool:

As for my experience, I loved it... it was around 0 outside, so she blew a big flame out of the muzzle on most shots. A teeny tiny bit of height adjustment on the front sight to zero it in (shoots high). :D


If y'all think there is a more technical problem with it... throw it at me. ;)
 
Have you tried more than one magazine? Does it fail with all the magazines you have?
 
Which mag are you using, the bakelite 74 that came with it? Those are "converted" to .223, and are known to have issues. I don't even use mine.

I have some Weiger or weigan or whatever the heck they are (German, steel) that run perfect.

My WASR-3 also came with a steel 5-rd, you may want to try that if you have one.

To diagnose, with the mag out, pull the bolt back and release. Does it go all the way forward?

Now try with an empty mag, to see if it is dragging on the mag. If it works fine, then your mag follower is not getting the rounds in the right spot.
 
mine came with 2 30 round steel mags (I have no idea what type, no markings), I bought 2 plastic ones with that 'waffle' pattern or whatever... but i had to return those because they were too wide and didnt fit... At the range, I tried both mags... same thing for both. a few time it didnt event eject the empty casing and occasionally jammed that empty casing right outside of the chamber... something is screwy with the blowback action. And as for the mags, they both ARE very loose when attached, but I came to the conclusion that the mag release lever was too short... I'm thinking of returning this one for a 7.62 WASR or something similar...
 
The mags can be quite loose and still function. Sounds like the supports below the rails are cut too short.

You have to remember the FCG is aftermarket, and may require some fitting. Century just slaps them in there and ships it out.
 
Here's a wild shot. Does your rifle have a recoil buffer? I had an AK that had a recoil buffer to increase U.S. parts. It retarded bolt action just enough so that there wasn't enough ooomph to fully chamber the next round. Buffer came out and gun functioned perfectly.
 
So, what should I do? Make a return or oil it up? It IS may first AK or anything thats fits under the Assault Weapon category... I may have overlooked some things when cleaning/oiling. Could that be a factor? I'm getting a feeling that it could also be the gas piston, I'm sure it IS a critical part of the blowback action and it seems as i the bolt carrier is only going as far enough to eject the empty casing (most of the time).

I dunno. I was gonna oil her up and shower some brake cleaner in the reciever with hopes of returning to the range before it dropped back to -30 degrees outside :uhoh:

Here's a wild shot. Does your rifle have a recoil buffer? I had an AK that had a recoil buffer to increase U.S. parts. It retarded bolt action just enough so that there wasn't enough ooomph to fully chamber the next round. Buffer came out and gun functioned perfectly.
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Where would it be and what does it look like?
 
I would take some oil, do the bottom of the bolt and carrier, rails, and back of the hammer, and sit on the sofa and work the action a few hundred times. It will wear in eventually.
 
My first question is....how cold was it. When I took my Arctic Warfare Course (Canadian Armed Forces) my C7 had all kinds of problems till I wiped all the oil out of it with a bit of gasoline. In cold weather, no lubricant is better than some lubricant that has solidified into wax. Just ask the Germans outside of Stalingrad in WW2.

John H.

Old Sigs never die. We assault hell and establish comms.
 
Ah yes, I remember 0 degrees F (actually I use degrees C but it is still bloody cold). The problem may be the lubricant. Try cleaning your weapon of all lubricants and see if it functions more reliably. At any temperature below 32 degrees F or 0 degrees C, oils and lubricants start to turn into solids. Only lubricate your weapon with something that can take the cold. The Russians would cut their lubricant with a bit of gasoline when it got really cold. Even us Canucks are pussies compared to how cold the Russians get before they start to whine!
 
I can't see why not. Brake cleaner is a solvent so it should work. My guess is that the lubricants are not working at the temperatures you are running at. Try cleaning all the moving parts with some kind of solvent to dry everything off. When I plan on working in the cold, I leave my weapons outside so that they are not subjected to thermal shock 2 or 3 times per day (prevents condensation as well).I can store them in my truck box easily enough, In the service we of course would leave them outside under guard.

Good Luck
 
A recoil buffer is an add-on shock absorber made of rubber or plastic. They're available for a wide variety of firearms. They cushion the force of the bolt/bolt carrier as they slam backwards against the receiver of pistols and rifles. Theory is that it lessens recoil and prolongs the life of the weapon.
 

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WASR3 is known to have some of the same feeding issues as a SAR3.

http://www.gunsnet.net/Linx310/model.htm#wasr3

I've had the SAR3 out in sub-freezing temps before with no difficulty, and no lube, but attempting to use converted AK74 bakelite magazines wouldn't work any day. I'd try using a Weiger mag and see if that makes a difference.

jm
 
for sure i DONT have the bakelite mags... these that i have are steel with a black finish, no markings. as for a buffer, I aint got one... this thing is a basic throwtogether package for $450 bucks.......
 
uhm....

I can confirm that i have wieger mags. BUT, I was looking at a WASR-10 yesterday and as i was working the bolt i found that it had about half as much tension going back as my WASR-3... This erked me a little bit, since my WASR3 hasnt returned from Century yet, I'm gonna see if the guy would accept a trade-in; my p.o.s. WASR-3 for that there WASR-10 with batonet :D .

I dont see why he would take it except for restocking fees or whatever
 
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