I got an interesting call Friday from my sister.
She teaches at a local community college. Classes just began and she still does not know all of her students.
Just before class on Friday, a number of LEO's came to her at her office and asked if she had ______ in her class. They went on to explain that they have reason to believe that this person has a gun in class.
She later found out that they had this information because the student had been making telephone threats to someone the night before.
Sure enough, my sister had this female student in class. When asked how to handle it, they said they would get her out of class.
My sister called roll to get an idea of who this woman was, and once she knew who she was, my sister made an excuse to go to her office because of something she forgot. (as was instructed by the LEOs.)
She pointed out which student it was, and then went back into class.
A minute later, LEO's quietly and calmly walked into class and moved up the rows on either side of the student. I don't know if they immediately restrained her or not, but they did apprehend her.
As mentioned earlier, the LEO's were informed that she had a gun based upon threatening phone calls to someone. In the aftermath, the student did cooperate with the LEOs. She did NOT have a firearm on her, but admitted that she had one in her car. The car, however, was not on campus.
There is a point to all of this.
My sister called me because she assumes me to be some expert on firearms laws. (I'm not, and don't pretend to be.) She asked me about the laws about carrying guns on campus.
Knowing that my sister tends to lean towards a liberal point of view on most things (including gun control) I mistakenly assumed that she was wondering about what laws existed that would prevent a student from bringing a firearm to her class.
I pointed out to her the concept of "Gun Free Zones." She said that her college was one. I was all ready to trump what a percieved as yet another political debate with her. I pointed out that it seems that being a "Gun Free Zone" didn't seem to stop a person who was/is willing to break laws. I furthered with the point that the only people who feel constrained to obey laws are the ones you would not have a basis for not wanting to have a firearm.
Obviously, I furthered this with a reminder of VT. I pointed out that there are laws against murder. If a person has decided on a path of murder, what would make them decide to obey a "No Guns Policy" when "Thou Shalt Not Murder" isn't up there in his priorities.
Well.... My sister shocked me.
Her response was "Exactly."
She then explained that she wanted to know what she would have to do to be legal in carrying the handgun that she leaves in her car with her at all times.
I told her that the most simplistic answer is getting her CWP and she could carry within certain restrictions. I told her, however, that this would not enable her to carry in a "Gun Free Zone" such as her college and that doing so could get her in trouble.
Her response was classic.
"So what are we supposed to do in order to protect ourselves from these crazy people????"
I just said "Exactly. Now you know why I am a gun rights activist."
I never thought I would see my sister as a convert. From subsequent conversations I am now conviced that she has seen the "light."
She's already asked me to get her set up in a CWP class.
Thoughts? Comments?
-- John
She teaches at a local community college. Classes just began and she still does not know all of her students.
Just before class on Friday, a number of LEO's came to her at her office and asked if she had ______ in her class. They went on to explain that they have reason to believe that this person has a gun in class.
She later found out that they had this information because the student had been making telephone threats to someone the night before.
Sure enough, my sister had this female student in class. When asked how to handle it, they said they would get her out of class.
My sister called roll to get an idea of who this woman was, and once she knew who she was, my sister made an excuse to go to her office because of something she forgot. (as was instructed by the LEOs.)
She pointed out which student it was, and then went back into class.
A minute later, LEO's quietly and calmly walked into class and moved up the rows on either side of the student. I don't know if they immediately restrained her or not, but they did apprehend her.
As mentioned earlier, the LEO's were informed that she had a gun based upon threatening phone calls to someone. In the aftermath, the student did cooperate with the LEOs. She did NOT have a firearm on her, but admitted that she had one in her car. The car, however, was not on campus.
There is a point to all of this.
My sister called me because she assumes me to be some expert on firearms laws. (I'm not, and don't pretend to be.) She asked me about the laws about carrying guns on campus.
Knowing that my sister tends to lean towards a liberal point of view on most things (including gun control) I mistakenly assumed that she was wondering about what laws existed that would prevent a student from bringing a firearm to her class.
I pointed out to her the concept of "Gun Free Zones." She said that her college was one. I was all ready to trump what a percieved as yet another political debate with her. I pointed out that it seems that being a "Gun Free Zone" didn't seem to stop a person who was/is willing to break laws. I furthered with the point that the only people who feel constrained to obey laws are the ones you would not have a basis for not wanting to have a firearm.
Obviously, I furthered this with a reminder of VT. I pointed out that there are laws against murder. If a person has decided on a path of murder, what would make them decide to obey a "No Guns Policy" when "Thou Shalt Not Murder" isn't up there in his priorities.
Well.... My sister shocked me.
Her response was "Exactly."
She then explained that she wanted to know what she would have to do to be legal in carrying the handgun that she leaves in her car with her at all times.
I told her that the most simplistic answer is getting her CWP and she could carry within certain restrictions. I told her, however, that this would not enable her to carry in a "Gun Free Zone" such as her college and that doing so could get her in trouble.
Her response was classic.
"So what are we supposed to do in order to protect ourselves from these crazy people????"
I just said "Exactly. Now you know why I am a gun rights activist."
I never thought I would see my sister as a convert. From subsequent conversations I am now conviced that she has seen the "light."
She's already asked me to get her set up in a CWP class.
Thoughts? Comments?
-- John
