charby
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The Jersey Devil on summer vacation in CT.
Can anyone ID this animal?
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MinnMooney
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What's with the black tail? Cougars have tawny colored tails like their bodies with only the tip being black.
koja48
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Got it! Crossbred Saschabravilicorn . . .
My first thought was mountain lion, but the tail has me thinking some sort of canine. I agree with Tokugawa about the shadow theory. Assuming the flash is part of the same unit as the lens, you shouldn't really be able to see shadows, because if the lens can see it, the flash will be lighting it up.
I want to see Specialized's wolf pics.
I want to see Specialized's wolf pics.
627PCFan
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Im going wolf because of the stature but I have never seen one with a black tail??
North of 49th
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Mountain lion or a big wolf sneaking off.
Kimber1911_06238
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specialized, the area isn't known to have mountain lions or wolves
moojpg2
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Mountain Lion
That is ,without a doubt, a mountain lion,the rear legs match the profile perfectly, the shadow theory seems about right to me, the shadow could be from the moon perhaps, and the object doesn't necessarily have to be in sight of the camera lens, the flash usually covers a wider area. there are one or two running around here in western, MA, or at least there used to be,I have a friend with a very clear, definite, 35mm film picture of a good sized one in mid day crossing nearby rte. 32,about 100yds. in front of a "welcome to CT." sign, so don't think they can't be in your area because the environmental police say so. They have a huge range, so u might not see it again for a long time.
That is ,without a doubt, a mountain lion,the rear legs match the profile perfectly, the shadow theory seems about right to me, the shadow could be from the moon perhaps, and the object doesn't necessarily have to be in sight of the camera lens, the flash usually covers a wider area. there are one or two running around here in western, MA, or at least there used to be,I have a friend with a very clear, definite, 35mm film picture of a good sized one in mid day crossing nearby rte. 32,about 100yds. in front of a "welcome to CT." sign, so don't think they can't be in your area because the environmental police say so. They have a huge range, so u might not see it again for a long time.
Deffinatly Mt Lion
You got a good old Mt lion there our DNR says that they arent in West Virginia too but I have seen several around where I live and if thats strange heres a local news story thats really weird some how an african Lion got loose in the next county over from where I live
African Safari in Greenbrier County
October 26, 2007
Search follows report of lion
Bowhunter says he saw big cat in Greenbrier
By John McCoy
Staff writer
In what has to be one of the most low-profile big game hunts in recorded history, Greenbrier County officials are quietly searching the woods near Cold Knob for what might be a large male African lion.
“We’re treating this pretty seriously,” said Robert McClung, the county’s senior animal-control officer. “Right now, we’re trying to confirm the initial report. Once we do that, we’ll figure out what we’re going to do about it.”
A local hunter, 72-year-old Jim Shortridge of Frankfort, was bowhunting for deer Oct. 17 when the lion reportedly approached him.
“I watched it for more than 40 minutes,” said Shortridge, who owns the parcel of land he was hunting on. “I watched it from my vehicle and from my hunting blind.”
Shortridge first saw the creature as he carried a cooler and his lunch from a vehicle to the 6-by-8 foot wooden blind.
“When I first saw [the lion], I thought it was a deer,” Shortridge said. “Then it growled at me.”
The cat ran away after Shortridge yelled at it. Convinced that the potential threat had disappeared, the slightly shaken hunter returned to his vehicle and retrieved his bow. Shortly after he began hunting, the creature came back.
“It paced back and forth, in front of the blind, about 10 yards away,” Shortridge recalled. “I sat and watched him. I kept shining my light into his eyes. The more I put the light on him, the louder he growled.”
Shortridge remains convinced that the animal was a male African lion. He estimated its weight at 250 to 350 pounds.
“It had a mane, so I could tell it was a male. And I’m sure it wasn’t a bear. Bears are all over Cold Knob. I see six to eight of them every time I go hunting, and I can tell the difference. Bears don’t shake me up at all. This lion made me pretty nervous,” he said.
After Shortridge returned home from his hunt, he reported the sighting to a Division of Natural Resources official. “The person I talked to said mine was the second report they’d gotten about the lion,” he said.
Curtis Taylor, the DNR’s Wildlife Resources chief, confirmed that his agency received the reports.
“It has been reported twice now,” Taylor said. “It’s not outside the realm of possibility [for it to really be a lion], mainly because people keep as pets a lot of animals that shouldn’t be kept as pets. When they get too big, too expensive or too dangerous, those people start looking for [remote] places to get rid of them.”
For years, DNR officials have contended that most if not all of West Virginia’s mountain-lion sightings have been of animals abandoned by their owners. Animal-control officer McClung believes that if the Cold Knob lion actually exists, someone probably turned it out.
“Either that, or it escaped from a pen someplace,” McClung said.
The Tiger Mountain Refuge, located more than 20 miles away in Nicholas County, houses abandoned big cats. Refuge owner John Forga said the lion didn’t come from his facility.
“No, it’s not one of ours,” he said. “I’ve been in contact with everyone I know, and no one reports a lion on the loose.”
Forga visited the Cold Knob site earlier this week with Shortridge. The two baited the area with chicken carcasses in an attempt to keep the lion in the area. McClung said he would visit the site today to install motion-triggered cameras capable of making photographs at night.
“We want to confirm what it is we’re dealing with. If we confirm that it is a lion, then we’ll ask the DNR to loan us a trap to catch it,” McClung said.
The DNR routinely uses large culvert-style traps to catch nuisance bears. The bears crawl into large sections of steel pipe to get at some bait. When they touch the bait, the traps’ hinged doors slam shut.
“If there is a lion and we catch it, we’ll try to move it without harming it,” McClung added.
Forga said that if the creature turns out to be an African lion, he would ask that it be moved to the Tiger Mountain Refuge. “We’re the only facility in the state that’s equipped to handle it,” he said.
To contact staff writer John McCoy, use e-mail or call 348-1231
You got a good old Mt lion there our DNR says that they arent in West Virginia too but I have seen several around where I live and if thats strange heres a local news story thats really weird some how an african Lion got loose in the next county over from where I live
African Safari in Greenbrier County
October 26, 2007
Search follows report of lion
Bowhunter says he saw big cat in Greenbrier
By John McCoy
Staff writer
In what has to be one of the most low-profile big game hunts in recorded history, Greenbrier County officials are quietly searching the woods near Cold Knob for what might be a large male African lion.
“We’re treating this pretty seriously,” said Robert McClung, the county’s senior animal-control officer. “Right now, we’re trying to confirm the initial report. Once we do that, we’ll figure out what we’re going to do about it.”
A local hunter, 72-year-old Jim Shortridge of Frankfort, was bowhunting for deer Oct. 17 when the lion reportedly approached him.
“I watched it for more than 40 minutes,” said Shortridge, who owns the parcel of land he was hunting on. “I watched it from my vehicle and from my hunting blind.”
Shortridge first saw the creature as he carried a cooler and his lunch from a vehicle to the 6-by-8 foot wooden blind.
“When I first saw [the lion], I thought it was a deer,” Shortridge said. “Then it growled at me.”
The cat ran away after Shortridge yelled at it. Convinced that the potential threat had disappeared, the slightly shaken hunter returned to his vehicle and retrieved his bow. Shortly after he began hunting, the creature came back.
“It paced back and forth, in front of the blind, about 10 yards away,” Shortridge recalled. “I sat and watched him. I kept shining my light into his eyes. The more I put the light on him, the louder he growled.”
Shortridge remains convinced that the animal was a male African lion. He estimated its weight at 250 to 350 pounds.
“It had a mane, so I could tell it was a male. And I’m sure it wasn’t a bear. Bears are all over Cold Knob. I see six to eight of them every time I go hunting, and I can tell the difference. Bears don’t shake me up at all. This lion made me pretty nervous,” he said.
After Shortridge returned home from his hunt, he reported the sighting to a Division of Natural Resources official. “The person I talked to said mine was the second report they’d gotten about the lion,” he said.
Curtis Taylor, the DNR’s Wildlife Resources chief, confirmed that his agency received the reports.
“It has been reported twice now,” Taylor said. “It’s not outside the realm of possibility [for it to really be a lion], mainly because people keep as pets a lot of animals that shouldn’t be kept as pets. When they get too big, too expensive or too dangerous, those people start looking for [remote] places to get rid of them.”
For years, DNR officials have contended that most if not all of West Virginia’s mountain-lion sightings have been of animals abandoned by their owners. Animal-control officer McClung believes that if the Cold Knob lion actually exists, someone probably turned it out.
“Either that, or it escaped from a pen someplace,” McClung said.
The Tiger Mountain Refuge, located more than 20 miles away in Nicholas County, houses abandoned big cats. Refuge owner John Forga said the lion didn’t come from his facility.
“No, it’s not one of ours,” he said. “I’ve been in contact with everyone I know, and no one reports a lion on the loose.”
Forga visited the Cold Knob site earlier this week with Shortridge. The two baited the area with chicken carcasses in an attempt to keep the lion in the area. McClung said he would visit the site today to install motion-triggered cameras capable of making photographs at night.
“We want to confirm what it is we’re dealing with. If we confirm that it is a lion, then we’ll ask the DNR to loan us a trap to catch it,” McClung said.
The DNR routinely uses large culvert-style traps to catch nuisance bears. The bears crawl into large sections of steel pipe to get at some bait. When they touch the bait, the traps’ hinged doors slam shut.
“If there is a lion and we catch it, we’ll try to move it without harming it,” McClung added.
Forga said that if the creature turns out to be an African lion, he would ask that it be moved to the Tiger Mountain Refuge. “We’re the only facility in the state that’s equipped to handle it,” he said.
To contact staff writer John McCoy, use e-mail or call 348-1231
stevereno1
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"A Liger...half loin, half tiger. it's pretty much my favorite animal, bred for it's strength and magic"-napolian dynomite.
oklahoma caveman
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here in oklahoma iv seen a few mountain lions. lot of my friends have 2. wildlife writer for local newspaper came to school 1 day an asked if anybody had seen 1. i said yea an so did my friends. he called us a liars because the oklahoma game an fish commision claims that there ar no mointain lions or black bears in oklahoma. that was true. they denied them. now magically it has appeared in the regulation book that mountain lions are legal to kill if they are endangering u or ur property. how can something that doesnt exist be killed? or threaten you?
still deny bears tho an i know of a bear killed right up the road from me and my entire family have seen them from time to time
still deny bears tho an i know of a bear killed right up the road from me and my entire family have seen them from time to time
2Ais4U
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Manbearpig!!! Ahhh!
Constantine-p89
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Mountain Lion
bdg146
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This is kind of an old thread, but I never got to weigh-in on it, so here goes. I think just about every state with any amount of decent wildlife areas have had reports of mountain lions. I know I've heard my fair share of stories here in PA. Some even suggest the PA Game Commission released them to control deer populations. Can't say I'm really on board with most of the conspiracy theories though.
As for the picture, at first glance, it sure does look like a mountain lion. But I think the reality is that it's too grainy and too poorly lit to make any sort of definitive decision. Shadows can play a lot of tricks on the eyes. I would say that the hind legs look too long to be a mountain lion. They tend to be shorter and stockier... this "cat" looks a bit longer-legged than a mt lion.
Another thing, looks closely. Can you REALLY see a head at all? It appears to be one, but how do we know this isn't an animal with it's head down? Or maybe the head is out of range of the flash. You can't really say that this animal is shorter in the front like a cat, because we don't know what kind of posture this animal has. It appears to be built like that, but that can't be said for certain.
Could be a Mt. Lion though. CT probably has a better chance of having them than PA. I'd be interested to know what has happened since the OP posted this?
Baiting a camera is completely legal, right? I'd probably be buying some cheap chicken necks or something and throwing them out there to see what comes in. Heck, hang them in a tree so the coyotes, foxes, etc. can't get them.
As for the picture, at first glance, it sure does look like a mountain lion. But I think the reality is that it's too grainy and too poorly lit to make any sort of definitive decision. Shadows can play a lot of tricks on the eyes. I would say that the hind legs look too long to be a mountain lion. They tend to be shorter and stockier... this "cat" looks a bit longer-legged than a mt lion.
Another thing, looks closely. Can you REALLY see a head at all? It appears to be one, but how do we know this isn't an animal with it's head down? Or maybe the head is out of range of the flash. You can't really say that this animal is shorter in the front like a cat, because we don't know what kind of posture this animal has. It appears to be built like that, but that can't be said for certain.
Could be a Mt. Lion though. CT probably has a better chance of having them than PA. I'd be interested to know what has happened since the OP posted this?
Baiting a camera is completely legal, right? I'd probably be buying some cheap chicken necks or something and throwing them out there to see what comes in. Heck, hang them in a tree so the coyotes, foxes, etc. can't get them.
XnaV80
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Instantly I thought MT. Lion. After reading everyone's posts and the pic blown up, i'm still thinking Cougar. Yeah, so the DNR says they're not where you are. Well i'm In Illinois and they say they're not here either. They're migrating to eastern iowa and here in IL. So keep the dog inside...$.02
Tarvis
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That is totaly manbearpig. Half man, half bearpig. Call Al Gore, he'll know what to do.
On a more serious note, looks mighty wolfy to me.
On a more serious note, looks mighty wolfy to me.
winchester243
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My initial impression was a German Shepard, but who knows for sure with the picture quality.
rickyford2
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It looks like a moutian lion.
Ricky
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At first glance I thought it was a lion coming toward the camera. A second look verified to my mind that it was a coyote going away from the camera. Dark tail is not that uncommon for a coyote, nor is the fact that it is drooping.
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