Oryx Hunting

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Their vitals are way lower than I would have expected. I've been told behind the shoulder but looks like its lower than that. Hope this helps others like it helped me. I would have shot way to high

Krackshot,

If you shoot an oryx behind the the shoulder you will gut shoot him. They do not have any vitals behind the the shoulder. The vitals are beneath the shoulder itself.

The heart sits low in the chest right about where the leg meets the shoulder. The lungs sit on top of the heart and go straight up from there all of it is under the shoulder.

The diaphragm sits directly in line with the back of the shoulder.

They are built much different from North American animals.

They will go through all of this with you when you attend the orientation class that you are required to take if you draw a once in a life time tag.

DO NOT SHOOT an oryx behind the shoulder. Whoever told you that was dead wrong.
 
H&Hhunter ,
Where would you place your shot?
How big a target is the fatal vitals area?
If the Oryx was looking right at you, a frontal view, you'd hold low on the chest?
thanks,
Bill
 
H&Hhunter Thanks for the info.. The link that I tried posting shows a great photo of the vitals. And your right they are lower than the shoulder. I did draw a once in a life time hunt in march 09.. When do they give the orientation. Ive heard the morning of the first day and i've heard the night before..
 
On my hunt the orientation was the day before. On my brothers hunt it was on the morning of the hunt. They'll let you know.

Harve.

You want to hold your vertical wire in line with the front leg. You need to shoot them right through the shoulders.

So basically you want to put your bullet in the lower third of the chest in line with the front leg.

I'll say it again if you shoot behind the shoulder like on an elk or a deer you'll get nothing but gut. Many African animals are built that way.

Their spine also is located much lower in the neck than what we are used to. I wouldn't try a neck shot. Most neck shots wind up with a wounded non recovered animal.

Just picture a basketball which lies at the bottom of the rib cage and sits between the front shoulders. Put a bullet their and you are in the money. Anywhere else and you are going to be in big trouble.

If you look at the picture that Krackshot posted you'll clearly see that the lungs lie vertically on top of the heart unlike an elk or deer where they lie horizontally behind the shoulder line.
 
It's a real fun hunt. It takes a little to figure what you're looking for, as they don't look like deer/elk in the brush, yet they camoflauge very well. They are wide awake, and almost always when you see them, they are staring straight at you already--maybeso from 900 yards or more. Challenging to stalk. It is pretty easy terrain, but sandy. Lots of small little rises. It will tire you out in time. Slip along the draws, then sneak carefully up on a rise, without exposing yourself, and look, close at first, then extend your gaze out. If you have a 4-wheeler, I suggest you take it. Not to hunt from--that's ferbotten, but you can use it to get your critter out after he's down. Speaking of "he", it is real hard to tell hens from toms. Actually, the females tend to have larger horns, at least by length, but the bulls horns are a bit heavier. Don't be hesitant to shoot a cow. And you may well find that the sex you thought you shot is not what you find on the ground. The orientation was in the AM of the first day (2 day hunt), lasted about 20 minutes. DON'T BE LATE AT THE GATE!!! They are very serious about the no camera deal. They let us take cell phones with cameras, but emphasized not to take pictures with them. They are also serious about the no beer, etc. thing. They WILL inspect your wagon, so don't have any aboard. I stashed a cooler outside the gate behind a bush and it was waiting pleasently on my exit. There are lots of critters, so don't be in a rush to smoke the first one--but don't wait for a 40" bull like I did either--I never found one, but passed a 43" cow--bad move. Plan to have a good binocular and use it a lot, and be willing to walk. Have patience. You don't need special cloths or footwear, though a basic drab or camo is good. You'll likely be down to T-shirt level by 11:00 AM. Take water, cause unless you're a camel, you will be thirsty! You will have fun! As H&H said, shoot them square on the shoulder, not behind. Don't try a neck shot. Think ahead of time on how you'll handle your meat. In the hunt area, it will be pretty warm. If you head into the hills a few miles out, you can find chill temperatures for cooling the meat. If you don't head up into the hills afterwards to hang your meat for a night, I don't know what you'll do. You could easily loose a bunch of fine eating. They are bigger than a deer--smaller than an elk. It is a good sized carcass to get chilled, so soon as you get off the base and get your photos, get the hide off. We went a day early just so we could locate a place to hang the carcass. If you stay down low, it will likely be too warm and you'll ruin the meat--a terrible shame, as it's better than deer or elk venison. You are a lucky guy! We took a muzzle loader, but never got close enough to even think about using it. That would be a real challenge (I'm talking traditional, round ball and patch).
 
MOOSEHUNT: Or anybody!! Did you hunt at stallion range? If so is there anyplace to park a camper close by? Or is motel the only option. Wheres the closest place to stay?
 
Well the cutoff for the drawing was in February, so I guess we have to wait until next.... when... to try again? When will the next draw open?
 
for the once in a liftetime you will have to wait till next year when they open the next draw. Before the cutoff date in Feb. The other one i'm not sure of. (broken horn,off range,Deprevation)
 
Krackshot,

I can't remeber which area I hunted but I can tell you this on both of the hunts we did there was camping on the range and nearby. We did the nearby because we wanted to sip a few brewskys by the fire the night before.:)

They won't let you beverage anywhere on the range.

If you call the NMDFG they will probably have camping info for you for your area.
 
I hunted Rhodes Canyon. I noticed several folks camping right outside the gate (they did not allow any camping on the range itself). We just took off into the surrounding hills and and found a nice spot. Like I said, one of our main concerns was finding a cool place to hang meat. Ten miles from the gate the night time temperature was 20 degrees cooler. Can't comment regarding the Stallion Range. Sorry. Check a map, topo type, to see if there are mountains anywhere close.
 
160gr. Barnes triple shok. Is that a good round and caliber for oryx?
I was blessed with a Texas state hunt this past weekend.
I used a 180 grain Barnes 3X in a .308 traveling at 2400fps. The shot passed through from the front of one shoulder, smashing the joint, and out through the rib just behind the other shoulder, about 18 inches in a straight line. The animal did a 180 and hit the ground dead. Meat damage was minimal. The guides said it was the first time in 8 years they had seen a shot pass through from shoulder to shoulder. I, and 4 Texas Dept of Wildlife biologists, are believers in the 3X.
Many thanks to Stephen A. Camp for suggesting this bullet.
 
I got my first oryx and in the process learned some about it. They are tough to kill. Oryx have a small target area to hit and drop them that seems out of proportion to their large size. When you field dress one I was surprised, their stomachs are huge and hold alot of food and water. In front of the diaphram being the heart lungs isn't that big and hidden behind that front leg bone all the way up and alot of muscle.
I had taken along my favorite 45-70 1881 Marlin with set triggers, and my 30-06 Klienguenther rifle. My friend Tom drove all the way from Mississippi for the occasion. We met the security police which was our escort/guides to the oryx on White Sands Missile Range. You couldn't ask for nicer guys to hunt with. But this ain't exactly a hunt it's a population reduction where you spot from the roads and then walk a little and pick your shot. The 45-70 didn't drop the oryx. I was shooting a handload of a Lyman/Gould 330gr bullet I cast and MV is 1580FPS. I limited myself to 125 yards for the oryx. First shot was way high as at 112 yards, and I botched the shot, pulling the trigger prematurely. That oryx ran off at a high rate of speed. Second oryx perfect broadside, Tom told me 106 yards, I had the Smith ladder sight set at 100 for a 6 'O'clock hold, it all looked good and I hit the oryx solid. The security /guide had him in his binoculars and said it was a good hit. But the oryx turned and ran straight away. I should of followed up with a shot up the behind, should of's. We followed the oryx for two hours, Tom found blood, then two more times. It dries fast at 100 degrees. The oryx traveled to an area the security told us we couldn't go anymore, I was discouraged. We had the 30-06 out and ready and the next oryx was running at about 100 yards I hit her through the diaphram and she stopped behind a cedar tree. I came around the tree slowly and saw legs. I saw this was going to be a fast close shot at 50 feet or less and set the scope down to 4X as I walked slowly with the rifle mounted in shooting position. When she turned and cleared the tree she was running and I led her by about 6 inches shooting her through the heart. The 180gr Hornaday bullet at 2650 FPS did the job but not much was left of it.
I had coolers ready and the meat is real good. This one had one curled horn and the other straight with about 4 inches broke from the tip.
My conclusion is a constructed bullet like the Barnes would have made the 45-70 a stopper if placed in the small heart area and the 30-06 would have been better with a constructed bullet like a Barnes or Nosler. Also hydrostatic damage does alot in stopping that my slower 45-70 doesn't have.
, Bill Weddle
 
1st Time chosen for once in a lifetime

Well, I had no idea oryx were in NM until my dad said, "lets put in for the draw, which we probably won't get. Then if one of us gets it, the other one has to go and guide." Well, I got it and he didn't. :neener: We are going to Rhodes Canyon Feb 28 - Mar 1, 2009. I now have a plethera of questions about my hunt. Seeing that I can't scout because I can't even go to the WSMR until the day of the hunt, it poses a problem. So... can anyone help me? Mostly, I think I need advice on how to stalk them, and where I can find the best concentration of underhunted animals. My background - I am mostly a california pig hunter. I have also taken about 10 antelope in Wyoming with handguns. I enjoy handgun hunting, but I understand I can't take a handgun on WSMR (even contender or Encore???). I imagine oryx will be wary like antelope. Please reply and let me know if you can help me.

Thanks,
Jeremy
 
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