AD costs US a Gold Medal (merged threads)

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Keep that finger away from the trigger!

Too bad...


http://www.nj.com/olympics/index.ssf/2008/08/browns_mills_emmons_blows_gold.html



Browns Mills' Emmons blows gold on final shot mistake ... again
by M.A. Mehta/The Star-Ledger Sunday August 17, 2008, 10:14 PM

Andrew Mills/The Star-Ledger
Teary-eyed Matt Emmons is comforted by his wife, Czech Olympic gold medal shooter Katerina Kurkova, after he scored a 4.4 on his final shot and dropped out of the medal contention.
BEIJING - He pulled off his gloves, shook his head and stared at the target in silence.

It happened again.

Matt Emmons looked up at the scoreboard. But it didn't matter. There was nothing more he could do.

He was brilliant for 129 shots, a sharpshooter poised to erase the nightmare and heartache from an inexplicable lapse four years earlier.

He had one final shot. An easy shot.

A layup.

But it happened again.


Four years ago in Athens, Emmons gaffed on his final shot of the 50-meter three-position rifle finals, accidentally firing at the wrong target. It cost him Olympic gold, but landed him the love of his life.

The Browns Mills native authored another strange chapter of a surreal story that had everyone at the Beijing Shooting Hall stunned on Sunday.

Emmons built a sizeable lead with his first nine shots and needed just a score of 6.7 to clinch the gold and finally put Athens behind him. But he misfired again when his finger accidently hit the trigger as he lowered his rifle to the bullseye. Emmons posted an unthinkable 4.4 after his shot failed to hit the point rings and dropped him to fourth place.

Emmons' blunder propelled Qiu Jian of China to the gold medal with 1272.5 points. Jury Sukhorukov of the Ukraine took silver and Rajmond Debevec of Slovenia edged Emmons (1270.3) for bronze.

"I don't know why I'm not supposed to win this event," Emmons said. "It just really surprised me. I didn't think my finger was shaking. I guess it was."

When it was over, Emmons's wife, Katerina, leaned over the rail and held him in a long embrace, wiping away a tear.

How could this happen again?

Emmons only needed a 6.7.

"That's a walk in the park," said Christian Lilleng, who coached the bronze medalist. "But things can happen. Unpredictable things."

********

"It is the most accidental case. I'm sorry for him." -- Silver medalist Jury Sukhorukov

Long before volunteers handed out the official press release with the headline "History repeats as EMMONS (USA) blows Gold again," the 27-year-old from the southwestern part of New Jersey was ready to make a different kind of history.

Emmons, who won the silver in the men's 50-meter prone rifle competition Friday, had the second highest score in the qualifying round of the 3-position. His first three shots in the finals were exactly what he needed to seize control.

He registered a 9.7 with his first shot, his lowest score before the fateful final one. Then, a 10.2 and 10.5.

Emmons was on his way.

"I felt really good," he said. "Really comfortable."

In the run-up to the Olympics, Emmons' story of loss and love was splashed across the globe. After his miscue in Athens, he bumped into Katerina Kurkova, a shooter from the Czech Republic, at a local watering hole, who consoled him. They fell in love and married.

For a guy who always believed that things happened for a reason, Emmons knew there was a silver lining behind the mistake that cost him gold four years ago.

It turned out to be Katerina.

This time ...

"I don't know," Emmons said. "I'll have to wait and see. When something this crazy happens twice, there's got to be a good reason for it. I'm sure it will show itself with time."

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"I thought, 'Oh my god. Not Again.'" -- coach Christian Lilleng

The next three shots were critical.

Emmons could wrap up the gold if he fired off three good ones. This was his chance to open up an insurmountable lead. Maybe he could find some breathing room.

He tallied a 10.1 on his fourth shot and then another 10.5 on the next one. He was on cruise control.

Emmons' margin widened to more than five points over his nearest competitor. Sukhorukov, Qiu and Debevec were nowhere to be found.

Emmons led by more than four points with four shots to go.

It was over.

"He shot a great match, an awesome final," said Katerina, who won the first gold medal of these Olympics last week. "I mean, look at it."

Afterward, there were questions about how Emmons could squander such a sizeable cushion. A Chinese reporter questioned his mental toughness.

"Dude, I got an Olympic silver medal, an Olympic gold medal (in prone in 2004) and I should have two more gold medals," an incredulous Emmons said. "There is nothing wrong with my mind."

So, what happened?

*******

"Something that ridiculous never happens... and it happens on the last shot of the Olympics? So, it just wasn't meant to be." -- Katerina Emmons

He was getting close. Shots 7, 8 and 9 were supposed to be his ceremonial coronation, his trip down the Champs E'Lyse.

10.1, 10.0, 9.8 -- bam! bam! bam!

But even though Emmons led Sukhorukov by 3.3 points with one shot remaining -- shot No. 130 of the competition -- the Slovenian didn't lose hope. He knew Emmons' history.

"It's strange," Lilleng said. "I was actually joking with my shooter that, 'Okay, if you are two or three points behind him, you have a chance."

The $25,000 prize money given to the gold medalist by the United States Olympic Committee would have done so much for Emmons, who has struggled to compete full time. Regardless of what happened in these Games, he wanted to give it another run for the 2012 London Olympics. But he needed money to fund his training.

None of that mattered before the final shot. He was seconds away from winning gold, seconds away from erasing Athens.

"To be honest, I felt really good going into the shot," Emmons said. "Of course, my pulse was going a little bit harder."

Everything was right in front of him.

A gold medal. A $25,000 jackpot.

Redemption.

So, he ran through every step in his mind again.

Exhale.

Raise the gun high above the target at 12 o'clock.

Slowly lower it to the bullseye.

And pull the ...
 
"The way I come into a target is I start above the target and come down from 12 o'clock and get into the bull's-eye," Emmons said. "And as I get down into the bull's-eye is when I start to get on the trigger [with my finger] and as I was starting to get on the trigger, the gun just went off.

"I guess I just set it off. I got on the trigger a little too hard. I didn't feel my finger shaking, but I guess it was. It just hit the trigger, the gun went off and I was like, 'Uh, that's not going to be good. I hope it hit the black.' "

Granted I am not saying I shoot better than he does but it seems like his strategy is both unnecessary and risky.

He starts pulling the trigger (taking up the slack?) before his is even on the target. Not sure why waiting until you are on the target wouldn't work better and if you accidentally shot early it would still be a hit.

I feel bad for him. He went from 1st (by a huge margin) to 4th by missing the last target. Essentially if he just hit the target he would have medaled. If he got a 7pt hit he would have kept the gold.

All I can say is he might want to look into his risky strategy.
 
I guess I just set it off. I got on the trigger a little too hard. I didn't feel my finger shaking, but I guess it was. It just hit the trigger, the gun went off

This is the only news report of an ND I have ever seen that did not characterize guns as independent, dangerous actors that just "go off" independently.
 
I'd imagine it's pretty light. Regardless, he wasn't on target or ready to fire, so the booger-hook should be off the bang-switch. The four rules are important, not just for safety, but for pride.

It sucks, and I can feel for the guy. But whether it was the hype, the stress, or that recurring memory from the first time, he screwed up. Hope he gets a third chance.
 
no not really I just have a thing against the N word. To me The N word(in real short) is in relation to a criminal intent/action not an oops.
 
no not really I just have a thing against the N word. To me The N word(in real short) is in relation to a criminal intent/action not an oops.

Why? He was negligent. I absolutely hate the term accidental. It wasn't an accident. The gun did exact what it was suppose to do.
If he fired before he was suppose to in the Army it most certainly would be considered a Negligent Discharge. It doesn't matter if it is in combat, in a drill, on the range, or w/ blanks in an exercise. Army now doesn't even allow the term "Accidental" unless it is a weapon malfunction.
 
in the Army it most certainly would be considered a Negligent Discharge
He isnt in the army at the olympics! I am not in the Army! Army policy means nothing to me on this topic.

Did he mean to shoot no, did his finger bump the trigger yes. MAkes an accident to me. If your kid spills a glass of milk is a negligence or is it an accident?

Negligence is seperate from accident. You get in a car accident and get a ticket(criminal court) and get sued for negligence(civil court)
 
He was indeed negligent. He neglected to make sure to be on target before he moved to fire the gun. That's not an accident. An accident is unaviodable, he was fully able to control the rifle, and make sure that the shot went where he wanted it to go. He wasn't paying attention and hurried, and neglected to follow the proper procedure for both safety and a winning shot.
 
He isnt in the army at the olympics! I am not in the Army! Army policy means nothing to me on this topic.
Sorry to offend you. I will leave all Army references at the door in this post.

Did he mean to shoot no, did his finger bump the trigger yes. MAkes an accident to me. If your kid spills a glass of milk is a negligence or is it an accident?
Lack of intent doesn't make something not negligent. Actions leading up to the act determine negligence. If my kid carries the milk carefully with both hands and still drops it that is an accident. If my kid decides it is cool to pretend the milk glass is an airplane, run around the house with it in one hand and drops it then guess what it is negligence. I will be upset in the later but not in the former. I will be upset because he was being negligent. The actual accident doesn't matter.

If I get drunk and get behind the wheel then kill you on my way home I didn't mean to kill you, I just wanted to go home.
So it is just an accident right? Guess your family will take comfort when I am not charged with a crime.

Wait I would be charged? Why? Because my actions leading up to the act were NEGLIGENT. I got behind the wheel drunk a situation a reasonably informed person would know increases the likelihood of ..... an accident.

I was negligent REGARDLESS if I had an accident or not. My actions increased the likelihood that an accident would occur. When you get arrested for a DUI it is no defense that you didn't cause an accident. Even if you made it to your destination before being pulled over it is no defense. It is no defense because the NEGLIGENCE is the drinking & driving not the actual accident.

Negligence is seperate from accident. You get in a car accident and get a ticket(criminal court) and get sued for negligence(civil court)

Couldn't have said it better. You can be involved in a accident that either DOES OR DOES NOT involve negligence. Two cars approach an intersection and light improperly shows green to both. Both drive into intersection and have an accident. In this case there was NO NEGLIGENCE on the part of either driver. On the other hand the accident above involving me and drinking was caused by negligence (deciding to drink & drive).

An accident and negligence are not mutually exclusive. A negligent action can lead to an accident.

http://www.thefiringline.com/Misc/safetyrules.html
Rule III: KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET
Rule III is violated most anytime the uneducated person handles a firearm. Whether on TV, in the theaters, or at the range, people seem fascinated with having their finger on the trigger. Never stand or walk around with your finger on the trigger. It is unprofessional, dangerous, and, perhaps most damaging to the psyche, it is klutzy looking. Never fire a shot unless the sights are superimposed on the target and you have made a conscious decision to fire. Firing an unaligned pistol in a fight gains nothing. If you believe that the defensive pistol is only an intimidation tool - not something to be used - carry blanks, or better yet, reevaluate having one around. If you are going to launch a projectile, it had best be directed purposely. Danger abounds if you allow your finger to dawdle inside the trigger guard. As soon as the sights leave the target, the trigger-finger leaves the trigger and straightens alongside the frame. Since the hand normally prefers to work as a unit - as in grasping - separating the function of the trigger-finger from the rest of the hand takes effort. The five-finger grasp is a deeply programmed reflex. Under sufficient stress, and with the finger already placed on the trigger, an unexpected movement, misstep or surprise could result in a negligent discharge. Speed cannot be gained from such a premature placement of the trigger-finger. Bringing the sights to bear on the target, whether from the holster or the Guard Position, takes more time than that required for moving the trigger finger an inch or so to the trigger.

The bumping of the trigger wasn't the negligence it was the accident. The situation that was negligent was a professional shooter deciding it is a good idea to NOT ONLY put his finger on trigger prior to being on the target but to actually put pressure on the rigger.

His words:
"The way I come into a target is I start above the target and come down from 12 o'clock and get into the bull's-eye, And as I get down into the bull's-eye is when I start to get on the trigger [with my finger] and as I was starting to get on the trigger, the gun just went off.

"I guess I just set it off. I got on the trigger a little too hard. I didn't feel my finger shaking, but I guess it was. It just hit the trigger, the gun went off and I was like, 'Uh, that's not going to be good. I hope it hit the black.' "

A reasonable person would determine that placing your finger on the trigger would increase the likelihood of the weapon "going off". His actions were negligent.

It doesn't matter if nobody was hurt. Of course he won't be sued, but that doesn't mean there was no negligence either. A party has to be injured (in legal sense) in order to sue for negligence. If I believe coating my feet in motor oil before getting on the roof to wash it clean is a good idea and then fall it is negligence. A reasonable person would determine that my actions (coating feet in motor oil) lead to the accident (falling of the roof). Of course I won't get sued since I was the only one injured (unless I fell on you or your car and damaged either in the process). :D

Using term "accidental discharge" indicates that the discharge was beyond his control. News reports of "accidental discharges" lead general public to believe guns are dangerous, that they accidentally go off all the time. This doesn't help gun owners at all.

Many people I know are surprised I carry a gun, they often ask if it "ever goes off" or if I am worried "it will accidentally go off and hurt someone". Where do you think they got that idea from?

Accidental (i.e unavoidable) discharges involving a failure of the weapon are extremely rare.
Negligent discharges are far too common. The term accidental blames the gun, where the term negligent puts the blame (rightly) on the shooter.
 
Yes his shot was so negligent that it still HIT THE TARGET. Remember that the next time you miss the scored section of a target. Or more likely in some of your cases the target board all together.
 
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