Refurbished Sigs

Yep. Factory-refurb Sigs are a fine deal IMO. Buy it.


-T.

I think they are a good deal. Only downside is that the supply isn't that steady since they are usually police turn-ins. I'll see a pile of a certain model for sale and when they are gone it's a while before the same one comes back around.

I would buy it quick if it's the model you want.

I have a P229 that was a factory rebuild from a police trade-in program. So far I've put a few thousand rounds through it without problem or complaint. It's now my CCW.

Did SIG ever fix the cheap scratch and sniff finish on the CPOs?

My friend has one. It's about the ugliest, most beat-up pistol I've seen in person. But that gun has a beautiful trigger, nicer than some 1911 triggers that I've fired. I tried to buy it off him, but no dice. If I had the opportunity to buy a CPO at a good price I'd jump on it.

Yes, they fixed the finish a while back. CPO's come with a factory one-year warranty and from all reports, are excellent deals.

I had a P-226 refurb that was defective. It wouldn't eject a live round without mangling it, setting the bullet back in the casing, and getting the round stuck between the ejection port and the ejector.
It went back to SIG two times. The third time they tried to give me the runaround, tried to tell me that my gun was in spec, whined about paying shipping to return their defective gun for repairs to them, and tried to flat out refuse to service it again under warranty. They eventaully caved in and sent me a replacement after I stopped being polite and started getting profane.
I promptly sold the replacement they sent me as it was without firing a shot. The guy I sold it to reported that he had some stovepipes with the replacement. I guess he took that up with SIG.

For the longest time I breathed venom any time someone mentioned SIG.
Now I've decided I'll probably buy one their guns again because a P-226 was my holy grail of handguns. But it will be a used one.
Their customer service sucks, their gunsmiths are apparently not able to fix their defective guns, and I don't see the need to ever deal with them again.
I'll take my chances on used from now on.

I have a refurbished P226. Never had a problem with it. In fact, it's the gun I trust most of any that I have.

goon said:

Their customer service sucks, their gunsmiths are apparently not able to fix their defective guns...

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My experience with Sig customer service and their gunsmiths is 100% the opposite of this. I found them to be very competent, extremely friendly, and very very expedient.


-T.

I'll raise you one... I've never NEEDED their customer service.

I've never NEEDED their customer service.

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Me either, new or used, and 15 guns out.

Then you guys should consider yourselves fortunate.
None of that changes how it went with mine.

To make it worse, the customer service rep I was speaking with put the phone down and went to speak with his supervisor.
He didn't put me on hold so I could hear everything that was being said between the two of them. They were NOT acting like friendly, helpful customer service people when they thought I couldn't hear them. They were being obnoxious A-holes and making fun of me.
The guy, I think his name was Zack, came back on and told me immediately after speaking with his manager (Victoria or Virginia maybe?) that SIG's gunsmith had reported there wasn't anything out of spec with my P-226 and that they weren't willing to repair it again or replace it.
It was then that I decided to drop the subtle tactics.
About thirty seconds into my tirade, the manager cut into our conversation. She went on to tell me that Zack had been mistaken and that the gunsmiths didn't decide SIG's policies.
Funny, because less than a minute ago I was listening to you tell Zack what to do.
Is Zack a bad employee?
Does he make a habit of doing the opposite of what you tell him to do?
Did he just pull this answer out of his ass?

Anyway, like I said, they eventually did break down and agree to send me a replacement.
But I shouldn't have had to act like an A-hole to get them to honor their warranty. After all, that is why I sought out a CPO instead of just buying a used one locally - to have SIG's warranty backing it. So they did send me a replacement which I then turned around and immediately liquidated. I didn't want to ever have to deal with their warranties, customer service, or gunsmiths ever again.
And as I said, the guy I sold the replacement to bought it as is, CPO with warranty being SIG's problem. He also told me that he experienced stovepipes and that he'd be contacting SIG if they didn't go away.
Maybe they had a bad batch of CPO P-226's or maybe someone was just in a hurry to put those ones together on a Friday afternoon.
Either way, I don't care.
I was a loyal customer and they screwed me.

I'll never buy one of their guns new again. It sucks because the P-226 fit me perfectly and would have been my dream handgun.
I've already decided to put my anger aside and buy a decent used one if I should happen to run across one but I'll NEVER forget this experience.

Pay your money, take your chances, best of luck to you.

Pay your money, take your chances, best of luck to you.

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That covers all but a few of them these days, especially if its a 1911. I've owned multiples of most major makers over the years, and only Colt, HK, and SIG have never had a gun returned to them for anything.

I also had a very bad experience with Sig's customer service. I bought a CPO Sig 228 that turned out to have a bent extractor and was a jamomatic. Sig's customer service was pretty rude, and refused to let me send it in for repair even though I had just purchased it and it clearly had a defective extractor. Eventually, after multiple calls, they agreed to send me a new extractor which I had to have installed at my own expense. It's been 100% since then.

I have since bought a CPO 239 that worked great out of the box.

Sigs are great guns, but I hope to never deal with their customer service again.

P220

...picked up my W German P220 .45, police "surplus" today. Hardly any holster wear. Can't have had more than a few mags through it! Talk to Mark at Summit Gunbrokers on line. He'll hand pick one for you for $425 + shipping.

A CPO alternative!!...

A CPO alternative!!...

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That "SIG" will never sell.

Sig

I have a slighty used sig 229 40S&W ran into a nice CPO 229 in 357 sig. That CPO has a trigger that so sweet. I guess from being shot a good bit by pre-owner. I wish my new one had that smoot s trigger. guess I have to shoot it more and smooth it Up ....

Sig thinks their **** does not stink. They are training their CS to deflect deflect deflect.

I used to be a huge fan of CPOs but I am convienced that these days they do very little reconditioning. They have allowed more and more defective CPOs to hit the market in the past 24 months then I can ever remember.

To me the best way to go is buy a used Sig from a reliable private party who can vouch for it.

The CPO 1 year warranty is terrible.

To me, when I read about goons experience, the ONE thing that immediately becomes obvious is... All of this could have been avoided and actually REVERSED (his anger to a positive experience) with better Customer Service! With guns, companies become successful and build a 'fan-base' by making a quality product AND then, standing behind it... totally!
SIG makes a great product!... can they have a 'dud', sure they can. But how they handle these duds AND how they treat their customers is KEY! SIG asks a 'top dollar' (CPOs included) for their guns... They must treat their buyers with respect and stand up to their problems. It really doesn't take alot of these experiences to start turnin' a 'fan-base' sour.
I'm with ya 100% goon, I'd be pissed too!...

goon,

I feel bad about your Sig CS experience and I'm sure it happened as you described. SigSauer handguns are everywhere with the vast majority never needing a CS return visit. I own several different brand handguns and have had them back to the makers of SigSauer, Ruger and S&W. All were repaired, but as many know S&W brags on excellent CS. That's is true, but like your experience with "the" gunsmith's at Sig, mine at S&W was terrible as well. I was told they receive for repair @ 150 guns a day. Many function perfectly, the owner was the problem. Personally, I've come to this conclusion: I am just one little, tiny, lonely handgun buyer, these hugh firearm companies look at the big picture, the big purchasers. To them I'm a disgruntled buyer...no big deal. They move onto the pending big contract deal. Do you really think SigSauer cares whether you purchase the P226 of your dreams? I doubt it. Because for the one lonely person (in this case, you) who refuses to buy a Sig product, ten will step up to the counter and make a purchase. They will always come out on the winning side.

Sadly, you're right. That is the only explanation for their behavior.

But the main reason for my new SIG boycott is that I don't want to ever deal with their CS or gunsmiths again.
If I buy one it will be used from someone who can tell me its history or from a gun store that will stand behind it (there are a couple locally).
And if there are any repairs that need made I'll either get a gunsmith to fix it or learn to work on it myself.

And really, something resembling customer service would have solved a lot of problems. Something even more important would have been for them to value their customers as people.
They fully intended to stick me with their defective product. That was their plan until I raised all kinds of hell with them and they only gave in because I acted like an a-hole.
There just isn't any excuse for that kind of attitude.

I own two older CPO Sig 229 pistols. Going CPO was the only way I could afford them when I got 'em and I haven't regretted the decision.

I have heard others (like Goon) who have had trouble but so far I haven't had any.

Of course CZ is also a nice alternative but I do love my SIG pistols

Another fine alternative is to buy a Sig Pro. As accurate and reliable as any other Sig.