Your thoughts on Swiss straight pull bolt guns

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I am thinking about a K31. I'm interested in hearing anything anyone with experiece has to say about any Swiss straight pull rifles. How strong is the action? How smooth is the action? Ammo availability? Is the Accuracy really as good as they say? Being as the Swiss are supposed to be such amazing marksmen. What should I look for when inspecting surplus rifles. What is a fair price for a shooter? Thank you in advance for your input.
 
Had one a couple of years back and was amazed at the accuracy. 2" groups a the 100 yard range and I think that was due to my own limitations. I traded it in on something that I wanted more and also was watching the ammo dry up and get expensive. But, you can buy commercial brass and if you reload, no problem.
 
amazingly accurate, excellent quality.

the swiss really know how to build guns.
How strong is the action? How smooth is the action?
very and very.

Ammo availability?
meh, some surplus, a few commerical brands. reloading supplys available

Is the Accuracy really as good as they say? Being as the Swiss are supposed to be such amazing marksmen.
ya, the K31 is probibly the most accurate surplus rifle out there

What should I look for when inspecting surplus rifles. What is a fair price for a shooter?

a good bore, a good crown, and matching numbers. all the wood tends to be dinged up.

200$- 250$ for a K31
 
my best friend has one.droped a doe at 300 yards this year
split it heart in 2.very good gun and 30cal bullets makes great to reload:neener:
 
k-31

My favorite surplus bolt gun! Everyone needs 1. or 3 lol. Yes , they are very accurate. Mine loves the surplus ammo. Privi shoots great also. Most of the rifles I've seen have beat up stocks, But the Swiss took very good care of the bores of these rifles. I say get one. Stock up on ammo. And have fun. dcl
 
As a battle rifle, well I just don't know how well the K31 would have turned out. It shows expensive machining and is complicated. It would have been hard to create new production lines for the things, and a lot of people are just not mechanically minded enough to handle the bolt assembly/disassembly.

However, as a military surplus rifle in the hands of Civilians, it is one of the best. The level of precision that the Swiss built these rifles to is just unbelievable.

Two of my K31’s have mis matching bolts. A pre war rifle, its bolt matches the receiver. I was told that bolts are totally interchangeable across the production of these rifles, and based on comparing fired case measurements, it seems to be true. This is incredible level of precision from 1931 till the late fifties, across 900,000 rifles.

These rifles are the most accurate military surplus rifles I have shot, if they had windage adjustable rear sights, they would out shoot my best Springfield rifles in a target match.

The cartridge is an excellent design. It is hard to believe that it was designed around 1888. The rim is thick, so it would have made an excellent semi automatic cartridge, and it is not that much longer than a 308. It is just between a 308 and 30-06 in power. Which makes it an excellent round. If the US had copied it back then, maybe we would still have an effective round in our military rifles, instead of that .223.

It does eject up straight, which is not problem with irons, but I don’t know if that will cause a problem with a scope.
 
I've posted this here before, but mine is much more accurate than I am.

The machining is so good that it ejects the spent cartridge to the same spot evey time. When I shoot standing offhand, I can pluck the spinning ejected cartridge out of the air at the same spot every time.

Buy one. They only made 500K and the stock is running out.
 
I have been shopping them and after handling one plan to buy one. There are only a few mil surps that interest me but this is definately one of them.
 
The K31 is a lovely rifle, but then you can go a stage further and get the 1911 long rifle they do. It gives you an extra 5 inches of barrel, weighs over 10ibs but is so well balanced it feels like a rifle that weighs a good 3ibs lighter and in my opinion a good one is the most accurate of all.

Now if only they could hurry up and have a non rifle altering peep sight to go on the thing, like they do with the K31. That is a long way to see down the barrel at the front sight otherwise.
 
ive got 7 of them, prices on these will only go higher. im priced in at around $90 a pop.
 
In switzerland, we put on optic on it, and shoot them at 1000m with GP11.... it's a very accurate combo for a surplus rifle, if you get a tight barrel (7.51 to 7.53 is considered very good)

I have got 3 of them- here is a picture I made for another american board :

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so it would have made an excellent semi automatic cartridge, and it is not that much longer than a 308

it is. we shoot it with the Fass57/Stg57 .. even full auto..
 
ya, the K31 is probibly the most accurate surplus rifle out there

I would argue that the Swedish Mausers are more accurate than the K31's, although it has to be a pretty close thing either way.

The K31 is a very fun gun to shoot. Accuracy is good, usually. The round is easy on the shoulder. I can't think of a single reason why I wouldn't recommend them other than that the excellent GP11 surplus ammo is quickly running out. The commercial loads available are OK, but the GP11 is really, really good ammo.
 
In switzerland, we put on optic on it, and shoot them at 1000m with GP11....

Hey Shung; I have always wondered why the Swiss never put a windage adjustable rear sight on their service rifles. (In fact, the receiver bridge of the K31 is long enough for an aperature sight on the bridge).

Does anyone know, or has that decision been long forgotten?
 
maybe because 300m was our max engagement distance at that time.

also, soldiers who were trained to shoot farther used both optics or diopters.
 
They are accurate,but some folks seem to hype them as being some wonder rifle.They are accurate but I have other milsurps that are just as accurate like a M1 Garand ,Czech 98/22,Enfield no4 mk1,Chilean mauser,all do as good or even better than the Swiss rifles.

Now I haven't shot my Swiss rifles that much,and with more use they might even be more accurate in my hands,but 2 to 3 inch groups at 100yds has been the norm with me so far.

They are excellent rifles no doubt and still reasonably priced ranged,ammo including Prvi Partizan is easily available.I bought a diopter sight for one of my K31 and it inproved accuracy.


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