Eating Crow and not liking it

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I purchased a Taurus PT1911 Stainless in 12-08 and have been a stalwart supporter of that pistol until yesterday. I haven't kept up with number of rounds fired but would estimate around 5-600. Took it to the range yesterday and it performed flawlessly. However, when I disassembled it last night for cleaning, the barrel link pin that holds the barrel link fell out. I really believe that this pin is meant to be permanently installed??!!

Now I'm in a quandry. Do I take it to a local smith and have it repaired and keep it or do I have it repaired and trade it? Right now, the second option seems more viable.
 
Don't own a Taurus auto loader but any problem shooter is reason to purchase another one. I believe Taurus has a lifetime guarantee. Ck with the factory on that. wc
 
the barrel link pin that holds the barrel link fell out.
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Many 1911 barrel link pins will fall out.
It is not the end of the world as we know it!

It is quite normal in fact.

Just put it back in and use a small center-punch to ding the hole on both sides to keep it from falling out when you have the barrel out of the gun.

It can't fall out when the barrel is in the gun.

rc
 
Just put it back in and use a small center-punch to ding the hole on both sides to keep it from falling out when you have the barrel out of the gun.
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Yup.
 
Thanks for the tip......

I'll go down and buy a couple of small center punches, one to perform the task that Taurus should have correctly done in the first place, and the other I'll send to Taurus per chance they don't have a center punch in their assembly line.

I'll also borrow one of the Redhead's white bed sheets to use as a "catch all" the next time I disassemble the PT for cleaning. Who knows what may fall out next time and I might not be so lucky to find it!!!!

Yeah, don't say it.....I already know that I over react to the small things but the small things are what eventually add up to big problems.......
 
remodel, good recommendation for the OP. One question, Is that the way thier originally installed (staked)? And if you would ever have to change the link (stretching), Then would it be a problem in the procedure or changing without damaging the barrel?
 
Be sure to ding the hole on the pin, not on the barrel lug. The pin should be replaced. They just lose tension over time and due to heat. It probably gets hot enough that the pin loses its tempering when it is fired a lot. That would allow it to contract when it cools. You might also install a new one with a tiny amount of Locktite for metal, ie thread locker. Just clean up well after you install it so that the thread locker is only between the pin and lug. Then after it dries, it'll stay put.
-Bill
 
Strange, I've never had one loosen up by heat transfer from shooting. I don't shoot fast enough to get my guns into the 500 degree range that will even start to temper the steel.

I've seen them loose due to tolerance accumulation in all makes and models, though. As said, whack it with a sharp punch to stake it in place while out of the gun. (It won't move around while the gun is assembled.) Hit it in ONE place, you don't need to crater up the whole thing. My AA rework 1911 shows a punch mark in the center of one end of the link pin itself. It hasn't moved in 40 years to my certain knowledge.
 
I'll go down and buy a couple of small center punches, one to perform the task that Taurus should have correctly done in the first place, and the other I'll send to Taurus per chance they don't have a center punch in their assembly line.
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OleCodger, I know you're mad, but that there is pretty funny! :D

Like rcmodel said, no biggie, pins are easily replaced or peened to fit. Just a part of normal 1911 maintenance, but you're right- it shouldn't be happening this low in the round count. Sounds like it wasn't fit properly in Brazil.

I would certainly fix this one myself rather than sending it into Taurus Customer Service.

JMHO, YMMV...

Jason
 
Curiousity got the better of me, so I took apart my PT1911 and one of my Colts, and they both had the punch mark on one end of the the pin like Mr. Watson described. I guess the guy that punched OleCodger's didn't hit it hard enough. My only caveat with the PT1911 is watching the set screws that hold the sights on, and making sure they don't back off and let the sight start moving around.
 
I'll go down and buy a couple of small center punches, one to perform the task that Taurus should have correctly done in the first place, and the other I'll send to Taurus per chance they don't have a center punch in their assembly line.
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Not to be insulting, but you do not have a problem. You should not insult Taurus until you have the basic knowledge of 1911s. Just a thought.....;)
 
Not to be insulting, but you do not have a problem. You should not insult Taurus until you have the basic knowledge of 1911s. Just a thought.....
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:confused: I've never had a link pin fall out of a new gun. They get worn out after a while, and are easy to fix/replace, but I've yet to have one fall out of a new gun.

Jason
 
I've owned Colt 1911 model for 30 years and currently own 3 Colts and a Norinco. The link pin isn't staked in any of them. Never was, wasn't designed that way and isn't needed. The pin is simply slid in place and retained by a relatively tight fit along with the confines of the slide. Over a time and with use they all get easier to take out, if they get too worn just buy a new one and replace it.
 
Steve C,

My experience as well. The few link pins I have removed were difficult to get out. They "should" be a good friction fit.

However, this is nothing to be unduly upset over; easy to remedy.
 
If anything just get aftermarket 1911 parts instead of dealing w/ Taurus (lack of) Customer Service.
 
One clue that there was no real problem was that the gun WORKED 100% of the time !!

That's a good thing !!

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Not to be insulting, but you do not have a problem. You should not insult Taurus until you have the basic knowledge of 1911s. Just a thought.....
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Like others have stated, I have shot 1911's since the mid 70's. Have owned countless numbers from many reputable builders. I have NEVER had one "fall out". Of all the people I have know who have owned one I have never heard of anyone complain that one "fell out".

Yes, he does have a problem and yes Taurus is at fault. Not a major issue, and one that can be easly resolved. So I wonder who really does not have the basic knowledge of a 1911.
 
Verdun......

Doing great! Took it to the local indoor range yesterday and shoved a couple of boxes of shells through it (one was Brown Bear.....smells like burned cardboard when it goes bang!). Went to the outdoor range today and put three boxes through it. It just keeps on crying for more lead and powder! Love that gun. Bought a Galco holster and wear it at 4 o'clock. Mighty comfortable. Was afraid that the 75B might be a little heavy for CC but so far, I've VERY satisfied with it following me around! Also put a set of Coco Bolo grips on it......really makes it shine.

I have noticed one thing though.........at 16 rounds per clip, it doesn't take long to use up my social security check and food stamp allottment!!!.......:D. Heaven forbid but I may have to get a real job if I continue to shoot it!....:cuss:
 
My Para carry 9, the link pin was not peened in place . I could push it out. It never bothered my shooting of the gun, as like RC said once in the gun, it ain't going anywhere.

Ol codger, u really didn't have a problem there at all. You caught itk, now you knwo that somepins are not peened in place either.

Just shoot it like you stole it...It seems the gun goes bang every time..
 
The link pins are normally designed to be removable. They may fit tightly, but they're intentionally not flared so they can be removed. I installed a Group Gripper on my father's Combat Commander, which necessitated replacement of the barrel link. I tapped it out with a punch and performed the installation myself. Don't worry about your link pin. It won't hurt anything. If you want to tighten it up a bit, you can always put a tiny bit of blue Loctite on it. With blue Loctite, you can always tap it out again with a hammer and punch, and it shouldn't interfere with the link itself as long as you don't use too much.
 
I have a Colt Gold Cup that the pin wasn't " staked" had a few thousand rounds thru it,never a problem.a friend borrowed it for Camp Perry one year,when it came back home I noticed the pin had been staked.I ask about it and my friend said just one of the precautions he takes.many more thousand rounds thru it with still no problems. jwr
 
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