Cheap 20 gage pump for HD.
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I would just buy the 12 gauge and use low recoil ammunition.
Some of those 20G shotguns are so much lighter that they recoil just as much as a 12G anyway. Also, you can load the 12 gauge down, you can't load the 20 up, making the 12 gauge much more versatile. Oh, 12G shells cost half the price as 20 gauge.
If you keep your eyes open you should be able to find a used Mossberg 500 or Remington 870 for $150 to $200, or just buy a used single shot for $75.
Some of those 20G shotguns are so much lighter that they recoil just as much as a 12G anyway. Also, you can load the 12 gauge down, you can't load the 20 up, making the 12 gauge much more versatile. Oh, 12G shells cost half the price as 20 gauge.
If you keep your eyes open you should be able to find a used Mossberg 500 or Remington 870 for $150 to $200, or just buy a used single shot for $75.
Hungry Seagull
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Mossberg 500 Bantam 20 gauge with the 22 inch barrel and youth stock. Not much longer than my full bore Rem 870
Two different gauges, but both guns speak Brenneke with same or nearly equal energy availible at 25 feet.
Two different gauges, but both guns speak Brenneke with same or nearly equal energy availible at 25 feet.
JImbothefiveth
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If you're buying a 20 for low recoil, make sure it weighs the same as a 12. A light 20 can recoil as much as a heavier 12.
W Turner
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The Remington 20ga. Youth 870 is tailor made for this application. Already comes with a shorter LOP and can be had for less than $300.
It may be a bit lighter than the 12 ga. model, but shouldnt be anything she cant handle unless shes a leprechaun. My wife is 5'5" and 1-- ( we dont discuss that number in my house..lol) and loves shooting my 12ga. 870.
As far as ammo cost...20ga always runs right at or slightly below 12ga. at my local wal mart.
W
It may be a bit lighter than the 12 ga. model, but shouldnt be anything she cant handle unless shes a leprechaun. My wife is 5'5" and 1-- ( we dont discuss that number in my house..lol) and loves shooting my 12ga. 870.
As far as ammo cost...20ga always runs right at or slightly below 12ga. at my local wal mart.
W
Mossberg model 500 Special Purpose Persuader/Cruiser # 50452
This is a 18.5 inch barreled 6 shot 20ga. gun, made for HD .
As far as the recoil statements , if you do not try to duplicate a 12 ga. load in a 20ga. gun the recoil of the 20ga. is more often less. I recommend the 20ga. over the 12ga. for HD . Don't need to get into that here, but look on the Mossberg web site for other special purpose Model 500's in 20ga. (there are variations)
A youth model Remington as well as the Mossberg is another fine choice. Their barrels are typicaly 21 inches.
This is a 18.5 inch barreled 6 shot 20ga. gun, made for HD .
As far as the recoil statements , if you do not try to duplicate a 12 ga. load in a 20ga. gun the recoil of the 20ga. is more often less. I recommend the 20ga. over the 12ga. for HD . Don't need to get into that here, but look on the Mossberg web site for other special purpose Model 500's in 20ga. (there are variations)
A youth model Remington as well as the Mossberg is another fine choice. Their barrels are typicaly 21 inches.
LibShooter
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My wife tried shooting clays for the first time a few weeks ago. All her cousins had thier fancy O/U trap guns and semiauto duck guns, buy she loved her uncle's Charles Daly 20 guage pump. Except for my ancient Stevens 311, the CD was the cheapest and least pretty shooting iron around.
Now she says that's her next gun.
Now she says that's her next gun.
wnycollector
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My father-in-law bought his GF a NEF youth 20ga just like this http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/37_350/products_id/48784 ~ a year ago for HD. She was never really into guns but she enjoys going out with us and practicing with it.
earlthegoat2
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This is subject to debate I would say.
Kind of Blued
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Several keep mentioning that a lighter 20 gauge will recoil as much as a heavier 12 gauge, so therefore you should get a 12 gauge.
I disagree.
Even if both guns recoil the same amount, having a lighter gun is a good asset, especially if you're outfitting a petite lady. I've instructed a few ladies shooting long guns who, even though we're using their skeletal structure as much as possible, start to fatigue and tremble much too fast if the gun is too heavy.
If she's just going to stuff it in her closet and forget about it, that's one thing, but getting a lighter weight gun that she can comfortably handle for a period of time will make her enjoy practicing with it more. When it comes down to it, I'd feel better with my old lady having a single-shot 20 gauge that she has practiced plenty with, than a nine-shot 12 gauge that she refuses to practice with.
I disagree.
Even if both guns recoil the same amount, having a lighter gun is a good asset, especially if you're outfitting a petite lady. I've instructed a few ladies shooting long guns who, even though we're using their skeletal structure as much as possible, start to fatigue and tremble much too fast if the gun is too heavy.
If she's just going to stuff it in her closet and forget about it, that's one thing, but getting a lighter weight gun that she can comfortably handle for a period of time will make her enjoy practicing with it more. When it comes down to it, I'd feel better with my old lady having a single-shot 20 gauge that she has practiced plenty with, than a nine-shot 12 gauge that she refuses to practice with.
KINGMAX
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REMI 870 one of the best
Get you a REMINGTON 870 pump in 20 ga. Second choice MOSSBERG 500. When it comes to firearms and defending your home/family, cheap should not be in the conversation!!!!!
Get you a REMINGTON 870 pump in 20 ga. Second choice MOSSBERG 500. When it comes to firearms and defending your home/family, cheap should not be in the conversation!!!!!
jlv08
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I went out a while back and looked at some shotguns for me and the wife and purchased a NEF Pardner Pump Compact 20 ga. In blued steel and walnut along with a 12 Ga. with the same features.
I looked at several other guns like the Mossberg, Maverick, Winchester 1200, Stoeger,etc.
I walked out with the Pardners.
Nice wood, good bluing on reciever, looks to be a blue matte or parkerized finnish on the barrel.
Construction of these guns are excellent and use good steels and solid aluminum billet for trigger group.
Nice and tight build with NO RATTLE!
They are slickening up well and haven't hiccupped, burped, flatulated, jammed, or malfunctioned in my shooting of these two shotguns.
Less than $500 for both.
They are not "cheap' shotguns, just inexpensive shotguns that are well made good field grade shotguns.
The pump I got my wife is a nice ,light ,quick handling unit that fit her 5'1" 120 lb. (She's a hottie!!) frame just fine.
I have had and worked on most of the pump guns made and feel that the NEF Pardner is a great value that is developing a stong following among folks who like quality and a good value.
I looked at several other guns like the Mossberg, Maverick, Winchester 1200, Stoeger,etc.
I walked out with the Pardners.
Nice wood, good bluing on reciever, looks to be a blue matte or parkerized finnish on the barrel.
Construction of these guns are excellent and use good steels and solid aluminum billet for trigger group.
Nice and tight build with NO RATTLE!
They are slickening up well and haven't hiccupped, burped, flatulated, jammed, or malfunctioned in my shooting of these two shotguns.
Less than $500 for both.
They are not "cheap' shotguns, just inexpensive shotguns that are well made good field grade shotguns.
The pump I got my wife is a nice ,light ,quick handling unit that fit her 5'1" 120 lb. (She's a hottie!!
) frame just fine.I have had and worked on most of the pump guns made and feel that the NEF Pardner is a great value that is developing a stong following among folks who like quality and a good value.
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