Picking a place to live in the USA. A thought and question.

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Titan6:The only one I ever lived in for any length of time was Washington. Nothing wrong with Washington but a lot of bums and druggies around SEATAC.

Native WAboy here, to tell you that Seatac (and in fact the entire I-5 corridor) is not really Washington. You have to get out past the sidewalks to find the good parts.

Parker
 
I looked at the Freedom Index and was glad I chose Idaho now. Ranked in the top 10 in all of their ratings and you can't complain about that.

If you need access to hospitals, in Boise there is St Luke's, St Al's, and the VA/Elks Hospital. St Luke's and the Elks Hospital are almost across the street from each other, and St Al's and St Luke's both have hospitals on both ends of town.

They both also have LifeFlight memberships if you need them.



Kris
 
I love reading threads like this because few people here (Phrank excluded in this case) mention New Hampshire. That's one of the reasons why it is my choice and I will return there someday.
 
If I were in your shoes, I'd stick where I was. New job(s), real estate transaction costs, the possibility of making a bad decision because of unkowns, yadda yadda. Improve things where you are. You could move into a highly regarded, highly recommended area, and the next election for county sheriff could screw you to the floor.
 
We are kind of experiencing a sort of moving happening as people get out of bad areas and try to get into better areas for the same money. Unfortunately they may bring friends from thier previous life with them to the new area.

Some of the homes in our area have been rented, bought finally and they appear to be decent folk simply doing what they can to participate in society.

Several of my neighbors and I have been communicating and I keep thinking that we are in a pretty nice area at the moment and probably will stay put for now. They too are probably on the fence also about relocating to other areas if necessary and will do so if needed.
 
I think what most of us need right now is to use this window of opportunity to make as much money as possible while we still can in America. I intend to live where I can make a good salary for as long as it's still possible to do so.


The socialist dystopia we're entering is bad, but I suspect worse is coming. Socialism may appear "not so bad" for a while. I recommend using this socialist bubble period to save up as much money as possible. Once the socialist bubble bursts, then the real hardscrabble period begins and there may be no end. Once they've burned through all the money they can tax, borrow, and confiscate, they'll be flat-busted with no plan. After that period begins, our opportunity to make money in America may be greatly reduced. So we need to make as much money as possible now.


Move to Idaho in Phase 3. Make money now in Phase 2.
 
See, that is another problem. Some of my neighbors have gone bust. Bankrupt. Fine. They get to keep house, cars etc. But it is clear that they are experiencing problems. So we help out with thier land if possible and check on them (Medical issues that bankrupted them in first place). So far so good.

We are dumping debt asap as opposed to making money. I guess you can call it making money in a way. But what we dont want to do is show off our new found... disposible incomes in form of curbside trash like boxes of something valuable. We burn those when burn bans are not in effect.

We try to do home improvements very small steps at a time. Word spreads rather fast when one whistles up a bunch of contractors to sink 6000 dollars into a home for a variety of things. Wow. that Family must be rich, look at them now... doing all these fancy doings....

I have a feeling that when the bust does come, the taxes will rise, gas costs and everything increases until people simply cannot pay anymore. Then they will target those still able to buy gas, etc. That creates problems.

Would it become necessary for me to draw my weapon to hold off those who want to steal money from me while I am pumping gas at 10 dollars a gallon while everyone is walking?

One must wonder. We live in a time that I dont recall ever seeing in my life time or matching stories I have heard handed down from family since 1915.

Ever see a group of homes erode? Just look at the unmowed grass, unpruned trees, wild gardens and slowly accumulating... failed appliances and what not around some of the roads in my area. Where once was property kept reasonably well now are kind of... let go in favor of surviving in hard times.
 
+1 New Hampshire

I live in NH, and I am a Freestater.We look out for each other ,our towns are very close knit and you know everyone in your town.Good safe place,unless you are a bad guy,and then you better run rabbit,run:evil:
 
When choosing a place to live (I went with Texas), there are a daunting number of things to consider. Unfortunatly, unless you're wealthy or have a trade that will allow you to practice it anywhere, you're going to be limited to where you can find a job. Most small towns have one or two companies that dominate the local economy. If they go tits up, your likely to lose your job as well, either directly or indirectly.

Another consideration, if you buy in a rural area, you do get more freedom since there are no zoning ordinances or homeowners associations. On the flip side, you don't have any protections either. If you buy 10 acres out side of West Bumfart TX, and a year later someone decides the land next to you would be perfect for a hog farm, slaughter house, or dump, you're screwed. That $200k property is now worth $20k and no one with a sense of smell is buying.

Weather and its results are not to be underestimated as well. Being snowed in for a month at a time is no fun. Neither is having to evacuate for hurricanes/wildfires/etc. Packing up everything you can carry and wondering if you'll come back to a pile of rubble stinks. Or moving to an area that has never flooded before only to have that 100 year flood happen and find your home under water.
 
LightningJoe:I think what most of us need right now is to use this window of opportunity to make as much money as possible while we still can in America. I intend to live where I can make a good salary for as long as it's still possible to do so.

I see your point, as long as you handle the money in such a way as not to lose it to inflation, confiscation, etc. Money (currency) is a construct of and controlled by the federal government and its cronies, and I think the value of the money is what you want to hold on to.

Otherwise, you might be better off living in rural poverty and developing your survival skillset.

JMHO, Parker
 
If you move to a new state, don't bring the California attitude with you. Embrace what they have in your new state, don't try to change it. If you love it enough to move there, keep it what you found.
 
I have lived in some good states, Alaska(born and raised), Arizona, Florida, and Georgia. All excellent. I would add to that list Montana, Idaho (brother lives there), Tennessee (dad lives there), Texas, Alabama (go there often).
 
I chose Texas. It was the freest place where I could get work in my field. Property values were low enough that I could buy minimal housing and then start knocking out the rest of the family's accumulated debts.

If trouble starts, I can shoot back (unlike anywhere I've been out West).

Sales taxes are reasonable - especially considering there's no state income tax.

The water tastes bad, but R/O filters are cheap. The water table is high, so a hand pump is feasible.

-And it comes in at #5 on the freedom index. The states that are higher aren't hiring.

So, as much as I hate the summers here, Texas is the best compromise that I have found.

I wouldn't advise anyone to move right now - unless you live in California. That state's gonna go down hard!
 
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A Cluster Of States

A similar question was asked a couple of years ago, and I posted a graphic showing a cluster of five states, all of whom have good gun laws, good hunting, and low population densities.

Basically, if you put a pin in Utah, you will find yourself surrounded by gun-friendly states, all with the good hunting/lower population thing.

We lived in Nevada for a lot of years, most of it in Southern Nevada. That place has kinda become "Los Angeles East" over the last several years, so we moved north to the Reno/Tahoe/Carson City area, which is way better. Nevada is "open carry/shall issue" and Northern Nevada has open country, hunting, and all that jazz.

However, having a border with California occasionally has its down side, and we elected to look for something a little less encroached.

We wound up in North Idaho (in the Coeur d'Alene area). Idaho is also "open carry/shall issue" and, if you're a DD214 guy, you already meet the requirements for a carry permit.

I would have been equally happy with Montana or Wyoming, but I work in the geek fields, so a certain amount of high tech industry is required. The company I work for is in Spokane, WA which is a medium sized metro city. My commute is about 30 miles and about 35 minutes. We have an absurd amount of forested land, a lake on every street corner, and no "helmet law" for bikers.

Utah, Colorado, Arizona . . . all good places. AZ is hot unless you live at elevation (Prescott, Flagstaff, etc.) and it's closer to the border than is comfortable for me.

Utah is good, though SLC seems to have picked up some kind of political infection. Colorado is also good, with the same caveat about Denver.

Have a look at the map of the states around Utah.

There are worse things than living in a state that has what you need and is also bounded by neighbor states that also have what you need.

 
I did enjoy Dyess Texas very much. There you have B1 Bombers that are like very loud and free in thier manuvering in the area. You aint lived until you witness these things leaving in burner at twilight below treetops and gone.

No home associations, no restrictions, no nothing. Except the Ladies I guess LOL. :rolleyes:
 
*waves at arfin* another Cd'a resident here. I've been here since '92-'93 (moved from Seattle area) and love it too. :)
 
NOT Wisconsin. Its alright here cuz its all I know but the more I travel the more I realize we're all just a bunch of drunks.

Good hunting and fishing though lol
 
Must be that Cheese up there. Gotta be careful up there in Wisconsin.

Also wasnt there some College towns up there too? Dont mis understand me, I aint picking on that state specifically too much. But it's either St Paul or Chicago ASAP and no time to take in the cheese.

=)
 
"If you were to pick one of 5 states to live your life over again in freedom and relative peace away from roving bands and big city troubles which of these states would these be?"
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In no particular order...

New Mexico

Arizona

Colorado

Wyoming

Nevada

A place in the cool pines, not on the desert floor.
 
"If you were to pick one of 5 states to live your life over again in freedom and relative peace away from roving bands and big city troubles which of these states would these be?"
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The one with the best employment options.
 
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