Win White box 230gr fragmented in flight

when did you last clean the barrel?


it looks like the other two wanted to frag also, what range were you shooting?

I don't think it's possible for a .45 ACP bullet to come apart in the air at the velocity they travel.
At least I have never seen it happen once in 50 years of shooting them.

You sure that isn't plywood frags coming of the backer board coming back through the target?

Or one round hit the ground in front of the target and kicked up some rocks?

rc

I had a .22 shatter once. I'm not sure if it shatered before or after it hit the target

WOW! That explains why I keep hitting the black!

I suppose it is possible that a defective bullet came off their line. If so maybe the centrifugal force of the spinning bullet took it apart. I would have thought that any components would have had enough mass and energy, even at 30 feet to penetrate the target material.

I know that they try for decent Q/C, but in my experience, the only stoppages I have ever had with my match gun was with WWB and out of spec rounds.

RMD

Again, it is not possible for a .45 ACP bullet to disintegrate in flight.

I have shot every kind of .45 ACP bullet made at one time or another, including pure lead cast bullets, Linotype cast bullets, half-jackets, JHP, JSP, and plated.

I have shot them into dirt, mud, rocks, steel back-stops, water jugs, coyotes, and about anything else you can think of.

In many cases, a FMJ-RN bullet is not deformed enough to prevent reloading it and shooting it again!

There simply is no way a 230 grain jacketed .45 ACP slug is going to turn into fragments in mid-air.

The only possibility I can think of is, the Winchester ammo you have is some sort of Lead-Free or Range-Clean type using some sort of sintered powdered metal bullet.

I would pull one apart and see what it is made out of.

If it's lead with a copper jacket, I can assure you it did not come apart in the air due to velocity or rotational forces.

rc

Are you shooting TAP ammunition? Winchester has a white box TAP product. I have never had a white box 230 gr ACP come apart during firing and flight in all the years that I have been shooting them.

win super clean has tin for the core material and brass for the jacket according to the winchester website. I have never used these in 45 acp but I have in .357 mag and they seemed to work fine.

I had a 44mag. schrapnel and saw the mutiple hits on the ground out about 100yds. I was shooting heavy hollow points. I don't remeber the details and was concentrating on the coyote. Never saw it before or since. It was probably a Hornady or elxe a Speer slug.

Again, it is not possible for a .45 ACP bullet to disintegrate in flight.

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Sure it is possible if the round is defective.

Hmmm... that is strange... Hard to imagine a lead core or copper jacket fragmenting that much... no matter how defective it is....

Last night I fired 8 rounds and only 7 were on paper

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If thats the case then where are the other 5 holes?

Last night I fired 8 rounds and only 7 were on paper....
If thats the case then where are the other 5 holes?

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at first that didnt make sense, then i remember the target only had 3/8 holes in it.



maybe he is shooting 5 shot groups, and was starting on his second target

Or one round hit the ground in front of the target and kicked up some rocks?

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You shot 7 rounds into those two holes? Thats some great shooting! The hole on the 7 ring looks bigger than the other, so you might have put more then one through it. The .22 cal hole, is kinda suspecious

Winchester has put out some crap ammo in the past, can't rule it out. I found a 40S&W cartridge on the ground, with the bullet loaded backwards, so QC may be slacking

Looks to me like a shot hit the ceiling of the range or perhaps the metal target hanger and then splattered onto the target. 45's go so slow there is no way they come apart in flight.

I couldn't see clearly from the pic, but did the small hole push 'in' toward the target or 'out' toward the shooter?

Ihad 3 holes with two shots. One of the holes was smaller and pushed out toward me. I hit a piece of steel 5 yds behind a target and it came straight back fragged.