Colt 45 Snub Power

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I recently bought a Taurus 450 lightweight in 45LC. It has a 2" ported barrel. Today I chrongraphed some Speer 250gr Gold Dot at 620 fps and WW 250gr round FP at 650 fps. Seems weak to me. The Gold will not mushroom in water jugs. I loaded a few 255 swc bullets with max recomended 6.2 Tightgroup and got 650 fps. This is about all this gun can do so is it enough self defense or trail carry? Maybe a different powder will up the fps. Or maybe load a lighter bullet.
 
Sounds about right, most plinking 45colt loads are in the 800fps range with a longer barrel, 650 is probably about as good as it gets for that short a barrel unless you think your gun can handle "ruger" loads through it.
 
About the best you'll be able to do (unless you want to push the envelope a little) is the low 700's, using 7 grains of Bullseye, 8 of Unique, 9 of Herco, or 10 of Power Pistol.

You might want to try using black powder. It might very well outperform smokeless.
 
I have one of these and have carried it due to the light weight. Try the self defense 200 grain loads, the velocity will be higher and they shoot more to the point of aim for me. The British Webley .455 load had a heavy bullet going at about 650 fps and it was considered a man stopper in it's day. It won't expand, but it is already a .45.
I shot some warmer loads in mine, but the recoil gets real uncomfotable really quick.
 
A lot of published .45 Colt data was obtained using revolvers with either a 7 1/2 or 5 1/2 inch barrel. Obviously you will lose some velocity with snub-gun lengths. However you will also lose velocity with other cartridges under the same conditions. On the plus side, it shouldn't be necessary to expand a .45 bullet because it's big in the first place. If I was truly worried about expansion (and I'm not) I'd work up some handloads using 185-grain or lighter bullets intended for use in .45ACP ammunition with a charge of fast burning powder.
 
A 45 Colt round in a semi-wad cutter is going to make a really big hole that isn't going to close up much. There isn't much velocity you are going to be able to develop out of a 2" barrel.

You can try some lighter bullet weights and see what extra velocity you can get out of them. If you hand load, it will be a lot easier to tailor a round that will be optimized for your gun. I'd be curious about how one of the new Hornady "Critical Defense" bullets (the ones with the rubber plugs) would do at the slower speeds. Or maybe fill the HP cavity of another round with rubber cement?
 
A 45 Colt round in a semi-wad cutter is going to make a really big hole that isn't going to close up much. There isn't much velocity you are going to be able to develop out of a 2" barrel.
I agree. if you can't get expansion then go with the SWC. People use hard cast lead bullets with flat points for hunting because the flat points will crush tissue and transfer quite a bit of energy.
You're better off with a flat point than a JHP if the JHP isn't going to have enough velocity to open up. Most JHPs act like round nose FMJ when they're shot below their ideal velocity.

I don't think you could load any JHP fast enough in your snub to get good expansion.
 
I agree. if you can't get expansion then go with the SWC. People use hard cast lead bullets with flat points for hunting because the flat points will crush tissue and transfer quite a bit of energy.
You're better off with a flat point than a JHP if the JHP isn't going to have enough velocity to open up. Most JHPs act like round nose FMJ when they're shot below their ideal velocity.

I don't think you could load any JHP fast enough in your snub to get good expansion.

Well, if we can't get speed, then lets go for "throw weight"! 325gr+ ought to make an impression! :evil:
 
I loaded a few 250 Gold Dots useing tightgroup powder. At 710 fps they expanded to about 60 cal. when fired into water filled one gallion milk juggs. They penatrated through two and stopped in the third. I think the expanded bullet slowed penatration. Recoil was almost the same as factory 250 WW which went through 5 milk juggs and keep going. Might be better off loading a soft swc or full wadd cutter bullet if you could find one. Is it safe to load a standard swc bullet backwards. If it shot ok it would hit like a wadd cutter.
 
When I had a 2" 45Colt I used 14.0 AA7 under a 250lwfn for an even 800fps. It will do the job on anything you need to shoot, this side of small cars, anyway.
 
I just upped the velocity to 725fps (250grGold Dot). It penetrated three jugs and cracked the forth. Mushroomed to 80 cal. I loaded these round just three tenths of a grain over factory recomendated load. I think this load will work.
 
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The Speer #4484 250gr .45 GDJHP is like their #4429 .44 Spcl 200gr - designed to fully open just over 800 fps, which I achieved from my 4" 625MG & 4" 629 with upper midrange suggested Titegroup loads in both calibers. Tests in brisket, ballistic gel, and water jugs has been demonstrated as quite good. The GDJHP did fill with denim, etc, affecting it's opening. The 250gr-er still has it's mass. Pity Taurus ported those 450's!

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