Glock 34 or XDm

It's going to be personal preference, but I am falling in love with the xDM!

Wow, what an accurate, easy to shoot gun! Hard to imagine a more competition-ready plastic pistol.

It really is "THAT" good.

(And you can shoot cheaper lead bullets without worries...)

-Sam

I sold my XD still have the 34.

It really makes no difference with regard to reliability, parts, and ability to modify (trigger job, etc). Pick the one that feels best in YOUR hand.

I have both. XDm can hold more ammo. It has shorter barrel. Glock does spit brass out all over the place. I have a few blisters from the brass burns. Another thing that is different is the field strip. Glock requires you to pull the trigger but not the XDm.
Everything else is preference.

As others said - in the end it will be personal preference. I prefer the Glock 34. Even if just for detail cleaning, Glocks are easier to disassemble to get to the insides. There are many more options for Glock in the way of holsters, mag pouches, sights, - you name it. More may become available for the XDM, but for now there is no contest. Go with the Glock.

You know, the other thing about the XDm? Whatever they did to improve the XD trigger, they should have done more of it. You can get a GLOCK trigger to be pretty good (out of the box they both stink).

IMHO, the XD sits too high in the hand for me. I don't like grip safeties--seen too many guys miss the grip a little and stand there with the gun up and their thumbs in a place that only their proctologist will ever see, wondering why the gun won't fire.

The GLOCK will be easier to maintain by a wide margin. It looks like an aircraft carrier flight deck inside there by comparison. For the "But you have to pull the trigger" people? Unload the gun first. It works every time it's tried. <g>

One last thing--you might think about going with a G17 instead. You'll be tweaking up either gun, and I actually prefer the shorter slide.

Dan

You know, the other thing about the XDm? Whatever they did to improve the XD trigger, they should have done more of it. You can get a GLOCK trigger to be pretty good (out of the box they both stink).

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If out of the box they both stink, then that's a wash. Or maybe not. There are several companies making drop-in trigger kits for the xD and xDM that are said to be "tuned 1911 good". I've got an overtravel stop coming in the mail for mine right now (hey, it was cheap) but I'm not sure I'll even bother. While, when sitting around dryfiring the xDM has a somewhat springy trigger feel with a tad too much reset, when shooting it in a competition setting, I've yet to notice it at all. The most "ultimate match super uber competeition match" trigger kit I've seen for an xD only runs about $90 and can be installed on your kitchen table. Like I said though, I'm not really feeling the need with mine.

Of course, I did just finish spending a year shooting nothing but revolver in competition so maybe my trigger finger is a little insensitive to the subtle differences.

I don't like grip safeties--seen too many guys miss the grip a little and stand there with the gun up and their thumbs in a place that only their proctologist will ever see, wondering why the gun won't fire.

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I've wondered about that, having never missed my 1911's grip safety ONCE, but on the xD I cannot see how you could miss deactivating the grip safety if you have any kind of a firing grip on the gun at all. Just doesn't seem possible... Of course, every shooter will find his own ways to screw up, so I can't say it's impossible.

In the end, feel, grip angle, trigger quality, bore axis height, and all the rest pales in comparison to the major question: Which gun puts holes in the A zone of a target fastest in your hands? If you can figure that out, I'd get that one!

-Sam

"tuned 1911 good"

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Not any of the 1911's I own.

If you have the opportunity, shoot both and then decide. seems to me that the eronomics of every gun and every shooter is different. If you can't shoot both, at least hold both.

MHO

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Not any of the 1911's I own.

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Well, if you send yours off to a good 'smith, I'm sure they could be at least as good as an xD with at drop in kit. The 1911 platform lends itself to a high degree of refinement in the right hands.

-Sam

G34 probably has a better trigger, try it to be sure

EVERY IPSC gun needs a trigger job, so I wouldn't worry much about the factory trigger. I believe you can also change the front site in Production Class. So again, I say pick the one that feels best in your hand. You might have a local range that rents pistols. Try them both.

Hmm, which do you feel more comfortable shooting???

I didn't read the entire thread so I might come off stupid, but you just bought your wife the blackwater p226 and you are getting a glock or xdm? First of all I would go XDm hands down. Second, if you have the money get a Sig rather than a glock or springfield. There is a reason the FBI, Secret Service, and Navy Seals, stick with Sig. Nothing against Glock, they are tanks. Nothing against springfield either, ive shot one and I like it, but im a Sig guy.

Not for plinking but to keep up with the youth and their hi-cap service models I thought I would give one a try.


But one thing I am pretty sure of is the worst trigger on a decent 1911, is probably better than a service pistol.

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Maybe not the worst 1911 trigger but that was the point of my post above; you'll never get a crisp 1.5# out of an XD/glock.

For the best score you should go to open for the big stick (one mag holds the same as 3 production mags), better sights, ultra flat shooting and major score, production is 10 rounds and minor. If you are trying to stay ahead of the whippersnappers production seems a step backwards.

I shoot the G34 in production, added Dawson Precision adjustable sights and a 3.5 lb connector. Absolutely a well balanced soft shooting pistol, Glock factory magazines are cheap and virtually indestructable a definite plus, I usually take 8 to a match. I cannot comment on any XD, except it appears that the bore axis is very high above the hand.
Perhaps a better alternative to both would be... CZ.

Second, if you have the money get a Sig rather than a glock or springfield. There is a reason the FBI, Secret Service, and Navy Seals, stick with Sig.

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Sorry to be picky, but the FBI issues Glocks - G23s and G22s - these days. They used to issue the SIG P228. Army CID carries the SIG P228 (called the M11). I think the Air Force Office of Special Investigations and NCIS also carry the M11 (though NCIS is transitioning to .40 cal 229 & 239s). DHS also issues SIGs.

Find people who own them and ask to shoot them. Just say, "hey I am thinking of buying one of those, and was wondering if you'd let me shoot yours?" Most people will say yes (and even offer to supply the ammo). Bring your own ammo, and make sure it is factory and decent quality (Winchester white box is fine).

Pretty much a toss up between the two. I have G34, and it is a wonderful gun. It is easy to shoot fast and accurate. I still shoot my CZs, but the Glock is my go to gun for the action pistol games. It flat out works. No justification or posturing needed.

A couple of notes about the XDm;

1. Mags are a PITA to field strip and reassemble.
2. Great for classifier stages, not so great for those occasional LD steel stages that my club seems to love so much. I spent much time trying to improve long-distance accuracy with my XDm 9 and was never as good as with my CZ.
3. Did not like the XDm Gear Kydex holster. Wound up with a Bladetech.
4. Same with Mag pouches. I had to do some mods to my CR Versa pouches to get them just right. Used foam tape to build up the Glock spacer for a proper fit on the XDm mags.

I decided to stick with my CZ 75B for IPSC Production division.

I love my XD .45 Tactical. But, I'm still having trouble getting primers and bullets for bulk reloading. I've got a closet full of 9mm

I think that the glock is the way to go. Good choice

I believe the government agencies mentioned go with the guns they go with for a couple reasons. First, of course is reliability and reputation. But cost comes into the picture as well. Some manufacturers give a great deal to these agencies or entities to get those agencies to endorse their product. Let's say you have a choice between the glock and the sig. Glock is going to sell you 5,000 guns at $400 each. Sig is going to sell you them for $300 and you know either gun is going to go "Bang" when you pull the trigger. You might opt to go with saving half a million dollars. You get a great deal and sig gets more customers since the seals/fbi uses their guns. It also depends on the range master. Some swear by the glock and some swear by the sig because they don't like plastic guns. They are going to convince the big chiefs to go with the brand that THEY like. This is the most common way that department's chose their firearm in my opinion...but maybe I am wrong.