Prices of Laser sights seem high to me.

Perhaps you should look into the raw costs of building a laser, and then figure out what it costs to build one that's robust enough to withstand the shock of recoil from a firearm without breaking.

Then figure cost of warranty, customer service, manufacturing facilities, shipping, logistics, and general market demand for such things.

That would give you a better idea. FWIW, I'm fairly certain a laser sight contains more parts that are harder to fabricate than your average toothbrush.

Perhaps you should look into the raw costs of building a laser, and then figure out what it costs to build one that's robust enough to withstand the shock of recoil from a firearm without breaking.

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And then you STILL wouldn't be close to the reason for the price.

The reason laser sights and laser grips cost what they cost is because enough people believe they are worth the cost. Period.

I just cant see where a laser grip should cost $250 or more.

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A big part of the cost of laser grips has to be amortizing the cost of the model specific mold the Crimson Trace Laser-Grip itself is made in.

Injection mold dies can run into six figures, and you have to sell a lot of grips for a particular model gun to recoup the cost of the mold for each one.

Also, the laser diode's that C-T uses are not the same quality or price you might find in a $4.99 Chinese laser pointer key-chain I betcha.

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Ok, then buy the laser sights that cost less than $50. There are plenty of them. Hell, if you go over to Sportsman's Guide, they'll gladly sell you laser sights for less than $20. You might want to ask yourself whether those are a secret bargain or whether there's a reason that others costs 7 times as much.

Ok, then buy the laser sights that cost less than $50. There are plenty of them. Hell, if you go over to Sportsman's Guide, they'll gladly sell you laser sights for less than $20. You might want to ask yourself whether those are a secret bargain or whether there's a reason that others costs 7 times as much.

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Exactly! There's reason cheap lasers are cheap.

There's a universal laser sight that mounts to the forward edge of the trigger guard. It comes with a bunch of plastic adapters to make it work with different guns. It hangs off the front of the trigger guard like a plastic stick, and looks like it would break off if you just brushed your hand over it. The cost is about $40.

Prices on laser sights, especially Crimson Trace, are very competitive. There's not much margin for the retailers, usually 10-15% or less.

Remember the first Terminator movie, when he kills Sarah Connor #1 with a laser-equipped pistol? That laser sight was the size of a small scope, and probably cost hundreds of dollars at the time.

I consider the CT lasergrips on my CZ to be one of the best purchases I have made.

The quality is huge and the dot is bright. The adjustments are great and precise, and they are super fun to use. Even my wife likes it

and the grips fit like a glove, better in fact than the factory ones, so yeah its worth it.

Perhaps you should look into the raw costs of building a laser, and then figure out what it costs to build one that's robust enough to withstand the shock of recoil from a firearm without breaking.

Then figure cost of warranty, customer service, manufacturing facilities, shipping, logistics, and general market demand for such things.

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But is there really a $150 difference between that and the cheap crap that China pumps out? Really?

Now, I would say it's better to make $100 a laser than $5 a laser. I'd much rather support less customers and in the end make the same profit.

Yes! $200 for Crimson Trace grips for a Taurus revolver?!?! ***?!!! I'd love to have them, but will never pay that.

But is there really a $150 difference between that and the cheap crap that China pumps out? Really?

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Yes.

This is starting to sound just like the thread about cheap guns and high-priced ones.....

Just because someone's financial situation does not allow them to purchase them does not mean the product isn't worth it. Obviously, enough folks seem to think they are worth the cost. Consumers set the price for anything. Seems a lot of gun folks let purchase price determine the quality they are willing to live with.

I've goNe the cheap laser route and now have CT, armalaser, or lasermax guide rod lasers in a few pistols. Cheap is just that, cheap, ugly and not the most reliable IMHO.

For me the cheap lasers go on the guns I play with at the range and wouldn't be on a gun my life or someone else would depend on. My ccw that's where I've invested more ASSUMING the additional build quality, testing, and workmanship that I'm paying a premium for would be best suited.

bought one from ebay for $30 buck.. died and fell off after 20 rounds from my XD9 ..hahaha

Crimson Trace is worth the money.

I have Crimson trace Laser Grips in 4 of my guns.

I believe they are some of the best spent money I've spent on guns.

Also, the laser diode's that C-T uses are not the same quality or price you might find in a $4.99 Chinese laser pointer key-chain I betcha

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I've had a few of those laser pointers and don't recall any lasting long enough for the batteries to wear out before they broke.

Crimson trace grips are the only one's I've had experience with but they have great quality and excellent customer service. I think part of it may be lack of competition. It seems like after lasermax came out the prices on both dropped. Eventually the prices of all of them should drop, but initial R&D costs are high and take time for economies of scale to kick in. It's probably not unlike prescription drugs, where they may run $10 a pill initially to recoup the R&D millions they spent but the price comes down or generic versions become available if their patent lapses/isn't granted.

There are $20 red dot optics. The price of EO Tech and Aimpoints seem high to me, but use them for a while and you'll see a difference. Heck there are some ACOG lookalike knockoffs now. Not the same ballpark...not even the same sport (2 points if you can name the reference for that )

Monkeyleg that laser from terminator was made by surefire a long long time ago and at that time it was more lik 1000 not just 100s if i remember right thats back when surefire would seel whole weapons equipped with lasers that they callibrated to each firearm so also factor in the price of the AMT hardballer longslide as well

as far as price to quality of the better lasers (CT Surefire Virdian etc...) they are pricey but alot of these products are built to higher standards
do i think they are overpriced yea maybe a little but not to the point that most want to believe
first of all most of these lasers are built of high end materials that are either milspec or at least authorized for police work so they are tougher than the cheapos
secondly they are built to higher quality with better lenses zeroing mechanisms and technology
and third the technology of most of the high end units is more compact and still works and just like the microchip smaller=pricier

i wouldnt knock any of the high end laser sights for the price i may spend 200-400 for a laser or light/laser combo but im only spending it ONCE vs 5-10 times replacing batteries broken mounts broken units etc

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I'd say you would be better off spending the money on a good training course and/or practice ammo than a laser.

But that's just me...

But is there really a $150 difference between that and the cheap crap that China pumps out? Really?

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No idea, as my general experience with laser sights has been limited to some general plinking, rather than any sort of actual testing and evaluation. However, CT seems to have a reputation for making a quality product.

I guess I just cant justify $300 for a laser sight, I mean thats half the price of a good gun!!! I would rather put the money toward a new gun.

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Eh. If you're shooting with any sort of regularity, it won't take long before you've spent more money on ammunition than what the gun cost in the first place.

CT grips are awfully expensive to me... I like the idea of them, but I never really liked the feel of the ones I tried out, That little button was just annoying.

Right now, I would rather spend the same amount on another gun than buy laser grips. Thats just me though, If you don't think you will be able to use the normal sights on your gun then buy all means get a laser...

There is another reason.

My wifes gun sits in the top drawer underneath her bras and such, and is a P01. I thought it out before I set it up for her, she is not a shooter, she likes it but not enough to practice alot, so check my thinking.

1. Something goes bump.
2. wife grabs the gun.
3. the gun has a RLS light on it, and the CT lasergrips. she hits the light, and the grips activate the laser just by her holding it.
4. she finds the threat, puts the dot on a spot sensitive to bullets and pulls the trigger repeatedly. No safety to worry about, doesnt have to focus too much on finding the front sight, long DA pull so she doesnt shoot ME on accident, lots of firepower and a flashlight to ID.

So basically just by grabbing it and hitting a button on the back of an attached flashlight, she has every advantage possible. If she has to grab the baby with one hand, she can, can even blast away while retreating.

Also in a dark house, that dot is very VERY easy to see.

Was the $399 CZ worth $75 bucks for a LED flashlight and a mount, and $230 for the grips?

Uh huh. AND its fun. She loves it, and thinks its the coolest. That goes a long way towards her approving future stuff.

Borrowed pic from Armoredman.

I cannot afford them, but if I could... I would get them!!