Triicon Places Bible Codes on US Military sights

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Got this from the Berettaforum; I don't think it's spam, and if it isn't, it'll create some news:

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/us-military-weapons-inscribed-secret-jesus-bible-codes/story?id=9575794&page=1

U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes
Pentagon Supplier for Rifle Sights Says It Has 'Always' Added New Testament References
By JOSEPH RHEE, TAHMAN BRADLEY and BRIAN ROSS
Jan. 18, 2010 —


Coded references to New Testament Bible passages about Jesus Christ are inscribed on high-powered rifle sights provided to the United States military by a Michigan company, an ABC News investigation has found.

The sights are used by U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and in the training of Iraqi and Afghan soldiers. The maker of the sights, Trijicon, has a $660 million multi-year contract to provide up to 800,000 sights to the Marine Corps, and additional contracts to provide sights to the U.S. Army.

U.S. military rules specifically prohibit the proselytizing of any religion in Iraq or Afghanistan and were drawn up in order to prevent criticism that the U.S. was embarked on a religious "Crusade" in its war against al Qaeda and Iraqi insurgents.

One of the citations on the gun sights, 2COR4:6, is an apparent reference to Second Corinthians 4:6 of the New Testament, which reads: "For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ."

Other references include citations from the books of Revelation, Matthew and John dealing with Jesus as "the light of the world." John 8:12, referred to on the gun sights as JN8:12, reads, "Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."

Trijicon confirmed to ABCNews.com that it adds the biblical codes to the sights sold to the U.S. military. Tom Munson, director of sales and marketing for Trijicon, which is based in Wixom, Michigan, said the inscriptions "have always been there" and said there was nothing wrong or illegal with adding them. Munson said the issue was being raised by a group that is "not Christian." The company has said the practice began under its founder, Glyn Bindon, a devout Christian from South Africa who was killed in a 2003 plane crash.


'It violates the Constitution'
The company's vision is described on its Web site: "Guided by our values, we endeavor to have our products used wherever precision aiming solutions are required to protect individual freedom."
"We believe that America is great when its people are good," says the Web site. "This goodness has been based on Biblical standards throughout our history, and we will strive to follow those morals."

Spokespeople for the U.S. Army and the Marine Corps both said their services were unaware of the biblical markings. They said officials were discussing what steps, if any, to take in the wake of the ABCNews.com report. It is not known how many Trijicon sights are currently in use by the U.S. military.

The biblical references appear in the same type font and size as the model numbers on the company's Advanced Combat Optical Guides, called the ACOG.

A photo on a Department of Defense Web site shows Iraqi soldiers being trained by U.S. troops with a rifle equipped with the bible-coded sights.

"It's wrong, it violates the Constitution, it violates a number of federal laws," said Michael "Mikey" Weinstein of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, an advocacy group that seeks to preserve the separation of church and state in the military.


'Firearms of Jesus Christ'
"It allows the Mujahedeen, the Taliban, al Qaeda and the insurrectionists and jihadists to claim they're being shot by Jesus rifles," he said.
Weinstein, an attorney and former Air Force officer, said many members of his group who currently serve in the military have complained about the markings on the sights. He also claims they've told him that commanders have referred to weapons with the sights as "spiritually transformed firearm of Jesus Christ."

He said coded biblical inscriptions play into the hands of "those who are calling this a Crusade."

According to a government contracting watchdog group, fedspending.org, Trijicon had more than $100 million in government contracts in fiscal year 2008. The Michigan company won a $33 million Pentagon contract in July, 2009 for a new machine gun optic, according to Defense Industry Daily. The company's earnings from the U.S. military jumped significantly after 2005, when it won a $660 million long-term contract to supply the Marine Corps with sights.

"This is probably the best example of violation of the separation of church and state in this country," said Weinstein. "It's literally pushing fundamentalist Christianity at the point of a gun against the people that we're fighting. We're emboldening an enemy."
 

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Oh, the horror! I'm offended! The bible?!? :rolleyes:

Here's my idea: we'll replace the bible quotes with the Miranda warning. That way, our troops can read the Miranda warning to the enemy before taking a shot. Especially the part about the right to remain silent. Permanantly. :cool:
 
We've had at least 2 other threads on the same topic in the past few days, we didn't realy need another. That beign said, it's kind of cool.
 
Our combat troops dealing with "Terms of engagement" are emboldening the enemy in a much more serious manner.
 
Has been known for months/years...^

such a news !

It's wrong ? well, give all these "wrong" ACOG's with bible verses back to the taxpayers who did pay for them !
 
Oh for pity sake.

First of all, it is probably just a coincidence...Trijicon is way too smart to play those kind of games with a huge dollar US Gov contract...and the whole attendant separation of church and state thing.

Second, even if...the Bible phrase references "light". Given the whole lighted reticle thing...well...

I do not know why folks get so fired up about this stuff...even if true!
 
I would definatly take a bible-sight.

Yeah they do do it, they always have and its not a big secret. There are bible references at the tail end of the serial number.

Whatever happens, I am sure it will cost us taxpayers a mint.
 
First of all, it is probably just a coincidence

it is not.. they are different verses on different models, all about the LIGHT.. which is a clear allusion to the ACOG's advantages !

And..? I mean, Trijicon is free to put whatever they want on their scopes.. and the DOD is free to buy them, or not..
 
I was an ACOG owner for years and never knew this. Personally I don't care, but I'm a forgiving kind of guy.

I imagine the best they can hope for at this point is to stop putting the Bible stuff on new ones, and they will proabably be lucky to not get their entire contract cancelled.

Any company with 600+mil in govt contracts should have known better.
 
Sorry, I saw the date on the article and didn't see the other thread even though I scanned for it.

Still interesting news; I'm now saving for a Triicon!
 
I just found out about this yesterday. I have always liked Trijicon before I knew this and will continue buying thier prdoucts after the fact. The make a great product. The artricle says that it may embolden the enemy saying this is a "crusade." That is total nonsense, these people already hate us and nothing is going to change that fact.
 
Since most of the members of our armed forces doing the fighting pray and have bibles with them how is this bad in any way. I can't believe the cry baby attitude that radical muslims may somehow become more radical because a great company puts an inocuous marking on a small piece of equipment. How you seen the Q-tip missles with facist islamist writing all over them? I don't have a problem with anything they write on anything they own. The seperation of Church and State crowd are ignorant of our history. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a private company writing what they want on their own products. Great products at that. Ever beeen to In-and-Out Burger? Even cup woull make some of these cry babies complain.
 
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