Cranky Neighbors

Isn't that like fertilizer?

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Yeah, but city people can't stand any smell found in the country.

It is hard at times to avoid letting *******s goad you into becoming an ******* but sometimes it is worth the effort. Some people like to push frivolous complaints into court settlements.

Why? Have they been to the city? Do they know what it smells like?

I'll admit, the exhaust of my farm animals stink. However, there are stonger stinking exhausts in the city. I'd rather tolerate the smell of a fresh cowpie than a fresh city bus. Tastes better too!

Isn't that like fertilizer?

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If I may wax poetic- when city people stop to smell the roses they protest the smell of the fertilizer.

I say this as an urbanite:

if you live in a rural area, shouldn't you expect to hear some shooting during the day? When my family and I would head out to our cabin in rural NYS, we heard shooting during the day. My dad's rationale: "These are country folk. They shoot guns a lot." Now, if you were blasting away at night, I could understand. But during the day? Also, I find that guns being shot outside tend to be not so disturbing unless you are right next to the shooter.

It's an adjustment for city folks. In the city, if you hear a gunshot, it means a crime has been committed. At best, the gunfire is someone illegally discharging a firearm within city limits, at worst, it is a violent crime, or a LEO using a firearm apprehending a dangerous criminal. If I heard a gunshot while in the city, I'd be on high alert. Years of that, probably makes it habit.

Out here, I hear gunfire, and the only thing I think, is I hope these guys also follow my rule that miller time always follows shooting time, and never the other way around.

Officers Wife, should have sent him a bill for lawn maintenance and fertilization, as for the loud neighbor, my principle had a neighbor that hated his guts, painted a freeking barn, with very not nice words, literally 20 feet tall,

anyway, she was cited for various zoning violations and he won a defamation case, seems she didn't like him raising horsed, prize winning Tennessee Walkers, and she did the whole red faced thing when he had a get together for the school one fall, the parents didn't react kindly to her.

The entire situation sounds like a lose-lose to me. If the friend you were house-sitting for truly is your friend, as you say, you no doubt created a bad situation for him upon his return from his vacation. Having cranky neighbors is bad enough. Having cranky neighbors that are angry at you because of something that someone else did while on your property is no fun at all. But the fact is that your friend now has to deal with it, and no one is happy.

I would wait for your friend to come back, I wouldnt start a problem he has to live with.

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Altho you were in the right, your friend confirmed this to the neighbor and the sheriff confirmed this to the neighbor, I agree with Ohio Gun Guy.

Red faced Rob has been told that there is nothing that can be done legally to prevent your neighbor from shooting guns on his property within limits of the noise ordinance. You would think this would be the end of it. Don't count on it. If it was your property and Red faced Rob was your neighbor, than it would be your fight. If your friend wants to escalate things with his neighbor, than so be it......but in MHO, it is not your place.....especially if you have a decent place nearby to shoot in the meantime.

Last fall, my youngest son and I went to my oldest son's land where we have a range set up to sight in our deer rifles. We also took along the usual array of handguns to shoot like we always do. After about an hour a younger guy in full camo comes from across the road, crosses the fence and begins shouting at me and my son that we are ruining his bowhunt and he has called the local authorities. I apologize to him for disturbing his hunt but tell him we had checked the local ordinances before creating our range and everything we were doing was legal and safe. I then tell him we were almost done for the day and that the valley should be back to normal in a half an hour or so. I then tried to make small talk to smooth things over.........but he just continued to get more obnoxious telling us how us city folk were coming out to the country and wrecking it for the "locals" with our ATVs, our food plots and our continuous morning to night shooting at everything that moves. I then asked him to leave and he refused. He said he was staying till the "cops get here" to make sure ''we got what we had coming''. I told him he should wait on the other side of the fence since he was trespassing and again he refused, continuing to get in our face. Few minutes later the local county mountie arrived and after listening to both sides of the story confirmed to the neighbor that we were well within our rights to shoot on the property. He then asked if we wanted to press charges againt the young hunter for trespassing. I said no, that it was just a minor understanding and it would not be the neighborly thing to do. The last thing the kid did as he walked away was to tell us....''don't think this is over!''. Since then, we have found dead animals and garbage throw in the driveway and floating in the small pond on the property. Windows in the small hunting cabin there shot out/broken and graffiti spray painted on it. Hunting stands trashed and feces smeared on the rungs of tree stand ladders. Don't take Sherlock Holmes to figure out who's doing it, but since the property is located out in the boonies and is vacant the majority of the time, it's been impossible to prove who's doing it. I wonder what would have happened if I had been a jerk and pressed the trespassing issue.

I had a neighbor a few days ago, get pissy with me, came running at me with a piece of pipe and swinging it around. And he threatend to kill me at the same time. I waited untill he was about 10 feet away and had my carry gun in my hand at that point. He stopped and dropped the pipe, mumbled some more BS and stomped off. I called the sheriff. Somehow he convinced them that I started an arguement with him and his wife. Never said a word to him, made a gesture, or even looked his way untill he started yelling. I told the sheriff that is pure BS and he knows it, and that is no reason to threaten me with a deadly weapon. And if he pulls something like that again, I won't wait untill he is 10 feet away. We even had witnesses to this crazy stuff!
I did some background checking on this guy, I found out that he is a convicted violent felon. Attacked someone in oregon with a hammer to the head, guy lived. I also found that he is a informant for the local law enforcement (I have friends) ANd that is why they would not arrest him for what he did. And they are over looking that he has firearms. At the end of May he has to be moved out, gone outa here. As I said, I have friends. And we go nowhere without being armed, yes we have permits. Know your neighbors.

200 yards is pretty darn close. As a good neighbor, I'd keep shooting volume, in both senses, to bare minimums.

No excuses for what the irate neighbor in the OP did though.

It's not unheard of for counties to enact anti-shooting ordinances for unincorporated areas, so trying to irritate the confrontational neighbor with more and louder gunfire could backfire on you and drag other neighbors into complaining.

Dead sheep

Some years ago I had a outdoor range at a buddies home in the country. There was only room to shoot about 35 yards and we had a 10 foot high berm of dirt in a u shape at the end of the range. It was set up to shoot to the west.
The guy who live to the north about a mile came over one day and told us we could not shoot there any more as we were scaring his sheep.
We told him that it was a mile away and the sheep would have to get used to it. About a week latter this same guy came over and told me that I had shot one of his sheep and he was going to call the cops.
I was very nice to the guy and told him that he and I and the cops would go over there to see the dead sheep. And if I had really killed the sheep that I would pay the going price for the animal, then I was going to eat it.
The guy got all mad and drove away. I called the cops to see if any call had come in and was told no.
The officer came out and went over to the guys home, He returned to our shooting range and told us that he could find no dead sheep.
Then he asked if it was alright for him and his son to come and use our range. We told him it would be great to have him and his kid shoot with us.
Made some new friends and found someone to shoot with.

Hey osteodoc08!

Sounds like the fella just "had-a-bone-to-pick" with you.

Geno

I can listen to and hear out a reasonable man about anything. But he would have forgot all about the shooting cause I woulda whooped his ass when the f-bombs started droppin, especially around my kids. I am not in the habit of anybody talkin to me that way in arms reach. I have extremely low tolerance for these kinds of people. Cussin and carrin own around a man and his kids is still fightin words in these parts.
People that can't mind their own business need to get their ass kicked often anyway.

This happened to me big time, if you continue on expect drama lots of it, i have a neighorbor a old 50 year old drunk, i went shooting in my own back yard. keep in mind im in open colorado and i can shoot 1500 yards before it hits a mountin with no houses. Im zoned agriculture and not covenated. so im shooting and the sheriffe, arrives. Like i always do i say hello whats the problem. turns out this guy called the sheriffe on me and said im SHOOTING AT CHILDREN TRYING TO KILL THEM. she obviously knew i wasnt she told me not to wrry about it and was going to have a talk with the guy.
keep in mind IM TICKED i mean just mad, so she leaves and what do i do i pull out 100 rounds of 30/06 and by semi auto 740, i pull out 350 rounds of 357 magnum loaded with H-110 max loads and a 30 30 for plinking. I even had foresight to bring the phone close to me. I the preceeded to commence firing, I unloaded all of these, now my neighorbor was unlucky enough to move next to my junkyard of a house 150 yards next too me. I got a phone call after i got through all my 06 ammo and some of my 357 magnum sheriff called me and said they cussed her out and are chain dialling her and she is going up there to talk to them and ask if i would please stop shooting. I did i dont know what she said to the guy since but he has sent anom letters to police about us not watering our livestock for 3 months, i laugh at this one 3 months no water theyd be dead lol. and the worst one yet he sent a anom letter to child services and by law they had to check things out, everything is fine but it is rude and a hassle.

point is you amy be opening a huge can of worms be careful what you do.

After a few days when things calm down I would take over a peace offering and bring your wife or another witness. Ask when a better time to shoot would be (maybe he works weird schedules and was trying to sleep.

If that fails, you'll need to reassess. But I can assure you that, having been in a neighborly pissing contest that got expensive, you want to avoid fighting with neighbors.

Long story short, a crazy woman neighbor of mine was upset with me for reasons that she brought upon hereself. I was unfairly the subject of her scorn and she caused me a lot of grief and expense in a frivolous lawsuit (I won in court, summary judgement - but at a cost of thousands of dollars in legal fees). Try as I might, I could not avert the disaster so to court we went.

It was so bad afterward that I finally just sold my home and moved and never looked back. While living there I was constantly concerned about vandalism, frivolous police calls, dead pets, etc. It just isn't a good idea to fight with neighbors.

If I were ever fortunate enough to get a place in the country where I could legally shoot on my own property, there's NFW I'd let some dick neighbor shut me down with their whining! Especially if I were there first! High Road or not, some things you just don't knuckle under to.

If they want to join me, that would be great! But if I'm shooting safely and within my legal rights and they don't like it, then they can just hide in their house and cower in fear until the moving truck gets there. Perhaps the next occupants will be normal folks.

I wouldn't raise hell with my shooting just to piss them off, but I damn sure wouldn't be asking for their permission either.

thats how i feel ron i have a lawyer picked out, for shooting and free ranging issues. i have 40 acres and i wont stop shooting i got a small games license to shoot at 3 am at coyotes if they make me to pissed.

I live is slightly rural Ohio, and at the beginning, I had no neighbors on my south, a duplex on my north (with a cop on one side, and a retired cop two doors down who also shot), and nothing west of me (the rear of my property, where I shoot). Since then, I have two neighbors south of me, and some houses to the SW about 300 yards in that direction. I can still shoot safely NW on my rear lot, and I do. Some have complained (to me, and the sheriff's office), but shooting is permitted in daylight, and I'm sure some "new" neighbors have come and gone in some of the houses newly built, maybe because of the shooting. Tis sad. They were always welcome to come join in the fun. When they ask about the shooting, I just tell them I am a competitive shooter, and it's just part of my training, like an Olympic competitor might practice. One neighbor got pissy and didn't speak to me for about a year. It wasn't so bad. He had been one of those nosey neighbors before that, and he just gave me a break from nosing in my business.

Try getting in the first word. If you see someone approaching that might not be happy, be the first to speak, and say something nice. "Hi, How ya doin? Great day isn't it? Would you like to come shoot some targets with me?". It doesn't work for dedicated, hardcore pissy people, but if they're only moderately pissy, and you lead off the conversation with a little friendliness, it does pressure reasonable people against being dicks.

However, if they're unreasonable, it doesn't matter. There was never anything you could have done about it.

You just have to know that eventually a dedicacated pissy person will unload on someone who just got out of jail, no longer cares, or just wont take that crap. That has to be interesting / entertaining.

about a decade a us marshall broke bad on the redneck who owned the farm behind him, guy was shooting 22's with his kid when the marshall from jersey trespassed to lay down the law. it didn't work out for him.

jonmerritt youre neighbor is the same as having a rabid dog in the neighborhood , you should have "put him down" the first time the next neighbor may not have a gun to be able to stop him .

Make sure if there is a next time put a few hollow points in his chest and have a criminal attorneys phone number handy for when the cops show up .

I agree with Ohio Gun Guy. He is not your neighbor. You do not live there you are a visitor.

"Whateva. Whateva. I do what I want!" lol

Thankfully, here in NC, neighbors tend to be gun friendly and sometimes join in on the sound of gunfire haha.