Need Objective Gel Testing Results: 147-gr. HST versus Ranger T

DonRon said:

I allways dealt with the real thing in my OIS reports and in my Military career.

My unbiased opinion after 40 years, Any bullet shot from any gun is capable of inflicted a mortal wound on a human body.

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Oh Good Lord. They are everywhere these days. There is no escaping them.

Anyways, thanks for the links ProCarryNAustin and, fwiw, I agree with you 100%. And I do have enough military background and history, both as one of Uncle Sugar's elites and in the Private Contractor arena, to know that what you are stating is correct.

With regard to 147's OP, it's an interesting, although common, question.

Here is a decent video test of the HST:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpO5kPuQYrA

Supposedly, the Hornady FTX beats them all these days. Here is that test:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD6Re_Gwcwc

And then you asked about the Winchester Ranger SXT, here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY05GU8ZNfc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZMgyqWgW7M

Hope this might answer your question to some degree, although not under the exact standards you dreamed-up.

Wow, another thread where Donron just spouts off nonsense while trying to start an argument.

I don't speak in absolutes. You do. I said most. Not every. Not none. And yes, most soldiers have had little or no experience handling firearms prior to joining the army.

I have trained MANY soldiers to use handguns, as recently as THIS MORNING, I don't see how this could be either blind OR speculative.

The only one making bold statements unsupported by fact is RonDon. I invite others to join me in rendering him the honor of being the second member in my long THR history to go into my ignore list.

Happy 7000th post to me, btw.

And if you need to modify posts to avoid looking foolish, perhaps you should write them more carefully in the first place.

I had to look for it, but by comparison, here is what I carry when I am carrying my handloads - and I've always like the Speer Gold Dot - I have no idea why there are so many other favorite flavors out there these days, but there are:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5aGOjyV6CU

There is absolutely no evidence that hollow point bullets stop human beings any faster the solid ones.

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There is absolutely no evidence that a 9mm bullet stops humans any faster than a .177 caliber pellet.

See how easy it is to make an outrageous statement? See if you can disprove this statement. I can for the same reason a hollow point with adequate penetration is generally better than a FMJ in the same caliber.

"Stopping power" (I hate using the term) depends upon adequate penetration first and permanent would cavity second. If an expanding bullet penetrates adequately, the expansion causes a larger wound cavity. That's a fancy way of saying a bigger hole bleeds faster than a smaller hole. Bleeding faster means physical shock sets in faster.

There's a wealth of information about this out there and I'm certainly not going to waste my time finding it for you because you obviously won't even consider it.