Many SAFE discussions. Anyone UNHAPPY with their safe?

What had looked like a hole from the pictures was cosmetic damage. The paint looks like it has a layer of primer or other white substance beneath the glossy exterior.

There was no hole. The metal shell was still intact. I ended up putting some putty and paint over it.

Thanks for confirming what me, Frank, and Heeler were saying all along. The conspiracy theory has been debunked.

Well I am glad that finally got cleared up.
I never liked eating Crow.

I never liked eating Crow.

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I wasn't even coming close to eating crow on that one. I have been around enough auto body work to know exactly what I saw in that pic......cosmetic damage only.

Yes it has gotten too small.

Has anyone dealt with primarysafes.com? They have an AMSEC TF6036 for $1076 plus shipping. I think that is good price. My shipping is $285 but no sales tax.

I've had one for years. No combo problems at all (I have the std combination lock). Moved it three times since 1995. I need another and like the "bolt together idea".
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I have a" scheels" safe. I think its made by liberty. There are 2 things I don't like the std dial lock and the internal hinges. So do yourself a favor and get one or two with electronic locks and exterior hinges.

I bought a small safe, then I ran out of room and bought a larger safe. Was not very long and I ran out of room again and bought an even larger safe. I gave up and bought a safe door from a closed bank and built a safe 16 foot square. Using concrete and rebar and it took a lot of work but I have a much better safe than you can buy. The only hard part was pouring the ceiling. Getting the concrete 10 feet up with a 2 gallon bucket was fun. It took 5 yards of concrete to do the ceiling.

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Must be a miscalculation...
So lets say the room is 4x4. Lets say the ceiling overlaps the walls by 1 foot on all 4 sides, which makes the ceiling 6x6 which makes 36 sq ft. The ceiling would have to be 3' 9" (45inches) thick to have used 5 yds of concrete. And the ceiling alone would weigh roughly 15000 lbs plus rebar.

Must be a miscalculation...
So lets say the room is 4x4. Lets say the ceiling overlaps the walls by 1 foot on all 4 sides, which makes the ceiling 6x6 which makes 36 sq ft. The ceiling would have to be 3' 9" (45inches) thick to have used 5 yds of concrete. And the ceiling alone would weigh roughly 15000 lbs plus rebar.

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I read it as being 16' x 16', in which case 5 yards would be pretty close to a 6" ceiling.

My bad. Was outside and that just crossed my mind that I read it wrong. That works out about right... and a bunch of concrete to move by hand!

gun safe's

most safe's on the market can be breached in less then 20 min with a single drill hole, if you do your research, mind you you dont have a 5 inch thick steel safe, any body know's you cant drill on a angled surface , it will break any drill bit no matter the cost of the bit , this applies to those handy with tig welders & useing hardened metal plate, do your research on your safe ,this only works for bg's that know your safe ,now if they bring a plasma cutter there in, or a oxy-acetylene there in ,or a bulldozer .

My Liberty safe's S&G electronic lock fritzed out after about a year or so. A locksmith with an email diagram from S&G of where to drill took 2 days and 3 holes to get inside it.

A safe guy on here told me that there is a difference between a locksmith and a safe-tech, so that may be a key.

The S&G has worked ok since then, but we do have to hit the reset (*) fairly often to get it to work right.

It could be better. But I will chance it over the old dial lock we had. We are in and out of it daily, and the manual dial was just too slow.

Anybody else have issues with electronic keypads?

Remander,

Michael Bane wrote on his blog problems he had with his electronic lock and also how bad Cannon's customer service is and dishonest they are with statements and claims they make about their company and warranty. I felt bad for him but it was kind of funny and convinced me to make sure to get an American made safe with a mechanical lock from a company with a great reputation for customer service.

http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2008/12/cannon-safe-failure.html

http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2008/12/more-thoughts-on-cannon-safe-failure.html

http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2009/01/very-last-cannon-safe-story.html

I have a local customer with a Cannon safe with electronic lock that has been having issues. Both of us have called them multiple times. Everytime we get a recording. Going on two weeks with no return call.

In the end I can simply drill the safe and be done with it, so I don't need them to call. Of course it speaks volumes for the company "with the best warranty in the business".

Michael Bane wrote on his blog problems he had with his electronic lock and also how bad Cannon's customer service is

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Most companies do not warranty locks after the first year. This includes Amsec and other big manufacturers.

Cannon

I have an older Cannon (made in USA) and have been very pleased with it and their customer service. I had issues with my original Kaba Mas electronic lock after 4 years and called Cannon for help. I of course knew the lock was no longer in warranty but they were very helpful and connected me to the lock manufacturer. That Kaba Mas model is no longer made(Humm) and they recommended a LeGard. I was able to buy this lock online and install it myself. Now, I am pretty handy with tools and it was not a simple swap, but the lock company was very helpful with phone support.
So, over all, I am pleased with my Cannon!