Ruger LCP

Bullet:

The LWS380 holster was made for me by R.J. Hedley (deceased). The LCP holster was made for me (specifically for the LCP w/CT Laser) by R.J.'s daughter, Lisa K. Hedley.

Thanks for askin'.

Jesse

PX15,

I will take the advice you posted concerning slapping in the mag v pushing the release. Guess if I had thought it through I could have reasoned that constant ham-fisting it past the release is not a good plan in the long run.

Seanpcola:

I think you'll find depressing and holding in the mag release button while replacing a magazine is just being prudent..

Or, it might not help reduce wear (I think it will), but it certainly will not increase wear on those parts involved...

Best Wishes,

Jesse

Ya I just went out for a shooting session with my new LCP and agree that depressing the release when inserting a mag makes it a lot easier and logically creates less wear.

On the topic of accuracy, I have found that I can hit cans and bottles pretty consistently anywhere from 7 - 15 yards or so with the LCP after 100 rounds now. Looking at the last few posts on the previous page about accuracy related to barrel length, there is a LOT more to accuracy than just barrel length as someone mentioned. My SP has a 2.25 inch barrel, yet I can hit plates easily at 25 yards, why? The gun has a nice even weight and good grips, plus it's a good quality snub (which are far more accurate than movies give them credit for!). The LCP has short grips and honestly - like any pocket pistol - is just sort of awkward to shoot, IMHO.

Grabbed a 9 dollar blackhawk #3 pocker holster today and absolutely love it. The bottom is closed so lint and crap won't get in the barrel and it fits great in my pockets without rotating at all. I'm sure the Desentis holsters are very similar or better, but this sure works for me.

depressing the release when inserting a mag makes it a lot easier and logically creates less wear.

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If you've got an LCP for SD (and why else would you have one?), this sounds like a recipe for trouble to me.
If you get in the habit of pressing the release when inserting a magazine, what's going to happen when the adrenaline's pumping and you have to reload under pressure?

Wouldn't be surprised to find a FTF, or all your ammo laying on the ground...

I think in a situation where time is of the essence I'd slap it in. I was thinking more (IRT PX15's advice) that I would thumb the release during normal shooting, range time and such. No reason to add wear and tear on the one hand, no reason to worry about it in an emergency on the other.

I would thumb the release during normal shooting, range time and such.

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Well you know what they say; Train like you fight-fight like you train.

If you get in the habit of doing it at the range, don't be surprised...

http://www.pocketholsters.com/Ruger...t_Ho/ruger_lcp_380_pocket-wallet_holster.html

My daily carry in my wallet holster. You forget you have it on you.

You make a good point basicblur, I mean that. It also goes both ways too I suppose, If you get in the habit of thumbing the release as you push the slide home and that's what works then that's what you'll do when the adrenaline kicks in too. Heck, if I'm in a position where seven shots don't do the trick my reload technique will be the last of my worries. Very good point though.

Hey PX and Sean I just hit upon some interesting info on a firingline forum about these mag issues. Apparently Ruger is aware of this and has done some recalling. This thread is 2 years old but the pictures that are posted mimic what mine is doing exactly. Worth looking at.

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=334700

I still love my LCP but find I carry its big brother, the LC9 more often. Better sights, better (and cheaper) ammo, more manageable kick.

The LCP is truly a nice little pistol. It is the easiest carry weapon I have ever owned. It is pretty dadgum accurate for such a small gun.

I own the LC9 and LCP. I picked up a used LCP last week at a LGS (spare mag + 50rds of WWB for ~$270 out the door). The guy said the person who had it on consignment bought it for his girlfriend and she shot 6 rounds out of it and thought it was too much recoil. If that's true or not, I don't know. But it looks brand new and is post recall. The LCP grip with the extended finger floor plate only gets up to my ring finger on it. This shouldn't make too much of a difference in your shooting for social distances. The LC9 with the extended finger floorplate, I can get all my fingers on, just barely.

Needless to say I carry an LC9 w/crimson trace right now IWB on my strong side ( http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=603299&highlight=lc9+crimson+trace ). I've been playing with the LCP in weekside front pocket and back pocket. I'll probably continue to carry two guns now because the LCP is highly concealable and I don't even notice I have it on me no matter how I carry it. It hardly prints without a holster, but I put it in a $10 Blackhawk Size 1 Inside the pocket holster and it complete disappears. I figure "Why not carry two". At the gunstore when I purchased it both the owner and sales clerk were carrying a primary and an LCP in their front pocket.

How's the recoil on these little beasts?
I'm comfortable with an all steel J-frame .38, a Makarov, a Kahr P9, and a 3" SP-101 with Hogue grips and full power 158 grain loads. Having said that, I like my brother's P-32 but when I shot a friend's P3AT, I found it to be the most uncomfortable pistol I've ever shot. I'd like a smaller "all the time" CCW gun but I want to be able to practice with it enough to have confidence in it.

If you can shoot a J-frame with no issues then the LCP should be just fine. When you say you don't mind 125gr .357 mags then there is no doubt you'll be fine. The LCP is not an all day range gun but I have no issues putting 50 downrange in a single session. I found a grip sleeve helps keep it in your hand since you can only get 2 fingers on it.

For such crappy sights, I'm pretty deadly accurate with the LCP.

Also, it has a GREAT double action trigger. Long, but super smooth, predictable, and very good break (clean and little to no overtravel)

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When you say you don't mind 125gr .357 mags then there is no doubt you'll be fine.

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Well, the 125's are a bit brisk out of a small gun and don't offer enough extra that I bother with them. But 158's - I'm fine with those. But like I said, the P3AT is the most painful handgun I've shot to date - including several .44 Magnums. I realize recoil is subjective, but does any one have a comparison between the Ruger and it's Kel-Tec competition?

I've fired 100rds through my LCP at a single visit several times at our club range with no problem. The recoil is quite reasonable, once I got used to the little gun I hardly notice it anymore. Likewise once I got the hang of shooting it I can keep all seven shots in a 6" group at 50'. I think it was the long trigger pull that threw off my accuracy at first. One thing that helped me was looking at the top of the slide when acquiring the sight picture. By holding the gun in the right position you can see along the top of the slide, if you're holding a bit high there is a reflection or you can see the top of the slide, if you lower the front site just to the point you can't see the top of the slide it's an excellent way to have sights lined up. It made a big difference to me in keeping the pistol's vertical impact point under control.

For what it is, the .380 would do fine for my purposes. I don't believe in the one-shot stop data anyhow - people are tough and no matter what handgun I was carrying, I'd almost expect to need to use more than one round. Even if a whole magazine full failed to stop an attacker, I'd rather go hand to hand with an attacker who's already good and wounded than go hand to hand with one who isn't.

My LCP cycled everything with no trouble. For me, it wasn't the most fun after 4 or 5 mags. But then again it wasn't really made for a day of plinking. Great gun. Really want to try out the LC9 too.

I am not sure if i find the LCP painful to shoot, but i would say it is highly unpleasant.

The lcp is a great pocket pistol but I cant have it here in Massachusetts, So I bought a s&w bodygaurd .380 and I am very happy. My first range visit and I shot about a 3 inch group at 50 feet.

Ok guys just wanted to get to get back to you all after another couple of range sessions and 100 rounds (250 in total)... since I was the one with accuracy issues on the previous page.

I will happily admit that the accuracy issue was me, and not being used to the long trigger pull, and perhaps such a small, light gun, and well... just being a newb . After getting used to it, I had no problem hitting a paper plate at 25 feet and I can see how more practice would improve upon that. I will say that this is my hardest gun (of five) to shoot accurately though, but I understand that is the price you have to pay for the ultimate in portability. The most accurate guns in my hands are full frame, heavy revolvers.

Of that last 100 rounds, I still had one fail to feed, and I noticed a frame pin starting to back out (a different pin started moving in the first 150 rounds). Still not impressed with the overall quality, fit, finish of the gun, but I guess you get what you pay for.

I'm fine with the accuracy now, but the jam still has me a bit reluctant to use this as my CCW.

A couple of questions about the LCP.
I own a Diamondback .380 and find it's pretty easy to shoot two full 50 round boxes of ammo at the range and pretty accurately too as it has real sights with zero discomfort.
But I continously read(but not some much in this thread) that the LCP and P3AT are so painful to shoot.
Since my DB is practically the same in dimensions and weight as the LCP and KT I just find it hard to understand that they can be that much different from my DB.
Any comments on that would be greatly appreciated as I came across a dealer wanting to unload one he has left for $275.00 out the door.
What's a reasonable out the DOOR price for an LCP??

I find the LCP a joy to shoot, and I could shoot it all day if ammo was cheaper. Much more pleasant than any blowback .380 I've fired, which includes the SIG P230, the Walther PPK and PPK/S, and (heaven forbid) the Seecamp.

Everyone's different, but I say if you like your Diamondback, the LCP won't be much different. Remarkable little piece.

BTW some I've offered to let shoot it have remarked, "Wow... that doesn't kick very much for such a light gun," and some have said "ouch!" and didn't want to fire it anymore. You never can tell, I guess.

Similarly, some people can shoot hot 158-grain loads out of their S&W airweights all day, but I'm not one of them. I'd rather throw the gun at the bad guy, I think.