Chiappa adding RFID chips to their guns

M-Cameron

in·cre·men·tal·ism   
[in-kruh-men-tl-iz-uhm, ing-]
–noun
a policy of making changes, especially social changes, by degrees; gradualism.

no nothing will happen....not for a while...not till more and more companies start adding rfid chips..then when a cop foils a huge "plan to kill hundreds" by detecting a rfid chip on all there guns..then "Only terrorist wont want rfid chips"..you get the point and see how easy it is to manipulate people..slowly ....try looking down the road in years and decades... rather then 2 weeks..

you guys have me convinced....

...not that the Govt is going to require these and use them to track our every move.....


but that i should start up my tinfoil holster business...

im currently taking orders

ive got 3 sizes....small, medium, and large...
price is $45+ shipping



Honestly people....calm down.

not everything is a govt conspiracy to get your guns....

goodness, HK has been doing this for a number of years.....weve yet to see any RFID mandate from the Govt.

this is strictly an inventory aid.......there has not been ANY talk of using them to track guns....

and until there is....there is no need to freak out.

M-Cam... it's not just about the government tracking the guns. they know what we have.

It's the open broadcast to ANYONE with the time and access to a RadioShack.

Not big brother.... Lil' bastard.

It's the open broadcast to ANYONE with the time and access to a RadioShack.

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again.......so someone knows you have a gun........what is the problem?

LOTS of manufacturers of LOTS of products use RFID chips to track materials and product through their manufacturing process.

They are NOT some sort of government plot.

They are NOT some sort of tracking device.

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Just couldn't help myself there.

Wyman

You don't see a problem with someone inventorying your home in advance of a B&E?

Really?

Edit.. Consider... The people scanning your home aren't just going to do it "just as a concerned neighbor"

You don't see a problem with someone inventorying your home in advance of a B&E?

Really?

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apparently they must have gotten some super strong RFID readers.....

...because all the ones i know of cant read through several walls and a steel safe.

Billions can be spent on shielding that can be overcome with a fractional cost of more power. And while you may have all of your guns behind layered steel, not every single person is/will be taking those precautions.

Consider Nushif's recently made stand for his 1911... some folks enjoy displaying their weaponry inside their Den. Unloaded rifles at the back of a closet for someone who can't afford a full sized safe...

Remember, Lowest common denominator. Just because we can be trusted to look after our own ends, does not mean everyone else will in their own homes.

http://www.proxiguard.com/index.php?page=3&product=334233

this company lists their passive rage as 10m.

ok...safes aside...

..how many RFID readers out there available to the general public that someone could reasonably afford that can read through a standard wall from approx 30 feet.....?

im going to guess not many.

How long do you think it would take with a set of bolt cutters or a torch to acquire one?

People steal copper wire from active power substations as well.

As this technology progresses, it WILL become more accurate, more powerful.

ULTIMATE PARANOIA MODE -- OH GOD I NEED TO MOVE INTO A BOMB SHELTER, LIVE IN A FARRADAY CAGE, THE GUV'MINT IS GONNA DRIVE DOWN THE STREET AND ACTIVATE ALL THE RFID AS SELF DESTRUCT DEVICES AND DISARM US ALL!!!

See... now THAT is being silly about this

How long do you think it would take with a set of bolt cutters or a torch to acquire one?

People steal copper wire from active power substations as well.

As this technology progresses, it WILL become more accurate, more powerful.

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well then....i suppose its a good thing im now in the tin foil holster business.....

dont forget, im currently taking orders.......10% off to all THR members......

jlott00 said:

M-Cameron

in·cre·men·tal·ism   
[in-kruh-men-tl-iz-uhm, ing-]
–noun
a policy of making changes, especially social changes, by degrees; gradualism.

no nothing will happen....not for a while...not till more and more companies start adding rfid chips..then when a cop foils a huge "plan to kill hundreds" by detecting a rfid chip on all there guns..then "Only terrorist wont want rfid chips"..you get the point and see how easy it is to manipulate people..slowly ....try looking down the road in years and decades... rather then 2 weeks..

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So were you this freaked out in 68 when the government started to require that guns have *gasp* SERIAL NUMBERS! ... just look how quickly they moved from that to RFID chips tracking our precious bodily fluids!



Look folks, ALCOA is trending down! Should be a bargain! You'll make a mint!

Don't forget the grounding chain of paperclips to go from the cuff of the pants to the ground.... add as an accessory.. in multiple colors!

people always forget to ground their Tinfoil armor.

I mostly have a problem with the condescending tone of the company about the issue. Even if your customers are wrong you still have to cater to them if you want them to buy your product. Tin foil hats? They don't have to be such a-holes about it.

I think the Rhino seems pretty cool but I would think twice about buying one of them now.

Where did this story originally come from?
If the original "storyteller" actually could use the English language, I might be more concerned. These days, you can put anything out there to cause panic, but if the first report is written so badly, I don't pay all that much attention to it.
There are an awful lot of organizations around who would like to throw out red herrings so that we miss the important movesw.

This came from the Italian language announcement from Chiappa in Italy.

Do they come with leather liners? Because I don't want to scratch the finish on my tracking devi...GUN! when I'm out and about.

Would removing this RFID chip be illegal? Before the flames begin, it is illegal to alter/remove serial numbers. I do not think it would be a far stretch to consider an internal RFID as a electronic serial number. I personally would prefer that my firearms not include an internal RFID. If they are used from inventory I have no problem with them be attached to the gun before sale.

Would removing this RFID chip be illegal? Before the flames begin, it is illegal to alter/remove serial numbers. I do not think it would be a far stretch to consider an internal RFID as a electronic serial number. I personally would prefer that my firearms not include an internal RFID. If they are used from inventory I have no problem with them be attached to the gun before sale

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not illegal at all.....there are no laws requiring firearms to have RFID tags........these have nothing to do with serial numbers...they are not used to track guns.........they only serve as an inventory aide......no different than removing the RFID tag from anything else(CDs, toaster ovens, TVs, clothing, ect).

the company even said if you dont want it....simply remove it.

M-Cameron said:

not illegal at all.....there are no laws requiring firearms to have RFID tags........these have nothing to do with serial numbers...they are not used to track guns.........they only serve as an inventory aide......no different than removing the RFID tag from anything else(CDs, toaster ovens, TVs, clothing, ect).

the company even said if you dont want it....simply remove it.

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I agree with you at this time. What I am thinking about is when the ATF decides to call a RFID chip part of the serial number and use the old law that is already in place to enforce leaving RFID chips intact.

I agree with you at this time. What I am thinking about is when the ATF decides to call a RFID chip part of the serial number and use the old law that is already in place to enforce leaving RFID chips intact.

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the only serial number that matters is the one etched into the receiver..

....any other number on any other part makes no difference.....and can be changed....removed....or altered as much as you wish.....this would include any number stored on the RFID

A big problem for me personally about being a gun nut is the rabid paranoia some of my interest inclined peers posses; sometimes its embarrASSingly STUPID!

Since this is the most comical thread I have read recently, the imp in me feels the need to keep it going.

Being one who is very protective of my privacy, I probably think about guarding my personal information more than most. If I were to rank order my privacy worries, I would put RFIDs way below worries about someone rummaging through my garbage.

Let me see... No Sporting Purpose, UN Small Arms Control Treaty, Extreme Magazine Capacity Limits, FOIP Cards and now RFID Chips. Yep, adds up to "Don't Worry, Be Happy"....

I wonder if their RFID chips will work better than their guns.

My experience with their 1911-22 and poor excuse for warranty service leave me zero chance of ever trying anything else from them!