Hoppe #9 - A Few Questions

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This has been on my mind for awhile, and it's got me quite paranoid (I'm obsessed with keeping my guns sqweeky clean). I heard somewhere that Hoppe #9 eats Al., Chrome-line barrels, and destorys wood; but only if left in.

Is any of this ture at all - even to the slightest.

It's got me quite scared. I mean, I never, ever wipe down the stuff. Did I just screw myself over? I've been leaving it my Mosin-Nagnats, WASR-10's, P38, P1, K98, and Cz-82 (sorry for the redundacy, just trying to make a point) for years now.

Thanks, forum.

EDIT: By the way, this is my first post. I have no clue if this is the right place to put it. Sorry if I put it in the wrong sub-sec.
 
The only small bit of truth I see to your worries is excessive oil of any type can stain & even weaken wood over time. Hoppes #9 will do you fine. I have other solvents but Hoppes 9 is all you need for most cleaning & shorter term preservation. Just like oil for engines don't get hung up on minor differences when the care YOU give is key to keeping you gun in great shape.
 
So I don't need to worry about it ruining my perfect Nagants (I love those things more than by damn wife)? You've never had chrome flaking off, Al being eaten at, or anything?

By the way, have you ever got a blue res from it? Not sure what it means, or how it got there.
 
Hoppes 9 is on the weaker side as far as solvents go. It won't cause any 'flaking' unless the flakes were falling off anyway.

Don't put a gun away damp, clean within a reasonable time after shooting, earlier with 'dirty' ammo. Give it a wipedown with a lightly oiled cloth before storage. Just those few things will go a long way towards preservation.
 
Hoppe's 9 won't eat that. I clean with that, then oil the heck out of them with FP-10 and tetra grease on the sliding parts.
 
Sorry for the bump, but what about the blue res?

I haven't seen anything that.
 
I know the #9 formula must have changed over the years.

Since the 60's. I always cleaned my guns with 9 and then would wipe them all down with it. It would leave a shiny, oily finish on the gun that would stay like that for years.

Anymore, if I use it to wipe down my guns, after a week or two, there is this sticky residue on the gun, not shiny and oily like it always was since I was a kid (40 years ago).

When did Hoppes change the #9 formula? Anyone know any details?
 
Here's the original formula, according to this jasper, and it had apparently changed prior to 2006. http://www.texasminutemen.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15341

more discussion: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090427114949AAi2nvg

http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=122346

Amyl acetate gives it the distinctive banana aroma. The nitrobenzene had to go a few years back--carcinogenic, I believe. You may want to investigate Ed's red cleaning solution. Only trouble I ever heard of w/ #9 was with nickel plating after long exposure.
 
I have been using Hoppe's no 9 for over 50 years. Zero problems with it. I have a bottle of really old Hoppe's that I open for a bit of aroma theropy now and then when I am feeling blue.....chris3
 
The only problem I've heard of with Hoppes No 9 was with nickel plating. Hoppes, or any solvent with ammonia in it to cut copper fouling, can cause nickel plating to flake, as nickel is bonded to a layer of copper plating, nickel won't bond directly to steel. If left soaking, the solvent can penertrate the nickel and dissolve the copper, allowing the nickel to flake off. I don't think hard chrome is plated over copper, and it's far harder than nickel in any event.

I've cleaned nickel plated guns with Hoppes, just didnt leave parts soaking or the solvent on the metal after cleaning it. Never had any problem with that, or leaving Hoppes on blued guns over time.

I think the ammonia content of Hoppes has been reduced over time, it doesnt seem to remove copper quite as agressively as it did years ago. I bought two large bottles at an estate sale years ago, and still have a lot left. Havent bought much of it in years, just to get another small bottle to put the stuff from the big bottles in, or if I ran out when travelling.
 
Sorry for the bump, but what about the blue res?

That is the color you get when the ammonia is removing you copper fouling. Ammonia dissolves copper, makes it a liquid (brass or any admiralty metals) and your patch removes it.

Looking at the MSDS, Hoppes only has 1-5% ammonia, you ought to see what happens if you accidentally :what: install a brass or copper fitting on a 20% solution ammonia pump. It won't last but an hour or two before it is gone and leaking.:eek:
 
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