ipod compatible hearing protection?

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its time for me to invest in some good muffs for the range and i'd like something ipod compatible that doesnt sound like total crap and will hold up. anyone have any input on whats worth spending my hard earned money on?
 
Dunno about iPods, but a good reason to be hooked up to an iPhone while shooting is all the iPod shot timer apps out there can feed right into your muffs instead of annoying other people on the range. Works great if you're working on your split times or Bill Drills on an indoor range.

Howard Leight Sports muffs work great with a iPhone. All you need is a male-male 1/8th stereo cord.
 
i enjoy music, it relaxes me.

Hawthorne2k, those are actually pretty reasonably priced, they are on my list.
 
Howard Leight Sports muffs work great with a iPhone. All you need is a male-male 1/8th stereo cord.

Works great for me -- it's not high fidelity by any means, but works well for my timer app on the iphone.
 
Maybe not what your looking for, but how about a pair of regular muffs and a set of earbuds for the ipod. Works great for me when I feel like listening to music.
 
I'm with Cowboy. I like Howard Leight L3s with earbuds underneath. The silicone earpieces work a lot like plugs. The cord coming out from under the muffs isn't noticeable. This set up is about the best I've found for listening to music with excellent hearing protection. I also have some HL electronic muffs and have plugged them into an iPod. They don't sound as good nor do they block noise as well.
 
If you're wearing the recommended NRR 30 plugs under NRR 20 muffs exactly where do you put the earbuds?

C'mon, if you're serious about shooting you have to be serious about safety. If you're serious about safety while shooting that has to include your hearing. The best way to protect your hearing is to wear plugs and muffs.

That said, there are electronic protective muffs out there with audio inputs, but I doubt you'll be very satisfied with the quality pushing through the plugs you need to wear under them.
 
I tried to do some google-fu, but could not come up the with the DB reduction on specific headphone/earbuds. This is as close as I got (but make no claims to it's accuracy) http://www.earphonesolutions.com/coofsoiseaan.html

Simply from observed experience I have noticed that the better noise cancelling earbuds work about as well as foam plugs for blocking out outside noise. I would never use just earbuds, but earbuds under quality muffs seem like It you give you only slightly less protection than muffs & plugs.

Again I have tested this nor do I have data to back up my hypothesis, please use caution.
 
After a little more searching I was able to find 1 brand of earbud that list's it's db reduction: http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-RP-HC55-S-Noise-Cancelling-Earbud-Headphones/dp/B0014II9F0/ref=sr_1_7?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1321770266&sr=1-7 They list a db reduction of 18db.

If a gunshot is 140 db and NRR 30 ear muffs http://www.earplugstore.com/remington-m31-earmuffs.html would reduce it to 117. An additional 18 db from the headphones would bring you to 99db, above the 90db limit that OSHA puts for prolonged exposure.

So if I understood all this correct, noise cancelling earbuds under muffs will give you some hearing protection... certainly enough to protect you form imediate hearing damage, but prolonged exposure (like all day at a busy range) could cause accumulated damage.

Here's where I got my info: http://www.earplugstore.com/gennoisprot1.html
 
I Believe Koss makes a type of earbud called "the plug", which functions like a pair of orange foam earplugs, except the foam serves as the speaker cone. Have a look at those.
 
Maybe not what your looking for, but how about a pair of regular muffs and a set of earbuds for the ipod. Works great for me when I feel like listening to music.

Tried that. The muffs push the earbuds DEEP into your ears, and it starts to get painful.
 
Maybe not what your looking for, but how about a pair of regular muffs and a set of earbuds for the ipod.

And even a small wire passing between the muff and your skin will degrade the sound rating of the muffs.
 
Try these. A distant relative has some of these (or other Peltors that have a jack) and he likes them quite a bit. I double up with plugs and muffs - but I don't know if said relative does.

I'm not sure how well they would work with plugs too. Maybe decently, maybe not.
 
If they dont make such a thing you can find some one who could. Not to hard just need to install the speakers in the muffs and then have a cord that plugs in going out.
 
Prince Yamato, I had a set of those for years until someone made them disappear for me. The only problem I could see with them is the buds are rather large for wearing muffs over them, I could see that being painful.

Thanks for the input everyone!
 
would reduce it to 117. An additional 18 db from the headphones would bring you to 99db

Sorry, that's incorrect. To calculate effective dB reduction to take the higher of the two and simply add 5 dB. You can't add the 30 dB from one and the 18 dB of the other since dB are logs AND that the two systems attenuate different frequency ranges differently. So, a 30 dB muff and an 18 dB "earbud/plug" is only an effective 35 dB reduction to your 140 dB firearms noise. IOW, you only get the noise down to 105 dB with plugs and muffs (with 30 dB muffs). Also, you're supposed to subtract 5 dB at the start of the calculation since application is never perfect. IOOW, you can only get it down to 110 dB.
 
For safety reasons, this isn't a great idea... it's hard enough to hear range commands when you have plugs AND muffs on, and you likely can't hear range commands at all with music and muffs at the same time.
 
I'm with Cowboy. I like Howard Leight L3s with earbuds underneath. The silicone earpieces work a lot like plugs. The cord coming out from under the muffs isn't noticeable. This set up is about the best I've found for listening to music with excellent hearing protection. I also have some HL electronic muffs and have plugged them into an iPod. They don't sound as good nor do they block noise as well.
That's what I use too. Works great. Going to the range alone is a lot more fun with some music.
 
For safety reasons, this isn't a great idea... it's hard enough to hear range commands when you have plugs AND muffs on, and you likely can't hear range commands at all with music and muffs at the same time.
This is all I could think when I saw the thread title... Safety should be the number one concern whether you're alone, on a private range, or shooting at a public range with others.
 
HSO, I disagree. Regular talking, between individuals is 70dB, correct? Thereabouts? I have 2 sets of muffs that were given to me by my step dad that he said he used on base in Vietnam and in Germany while he was in the AirForce. These literally take the volume of regular talking down to what sounds like a faint whisper. If I'm not mistaken, that's quite a reduction, because regular muffs and plugs don't do that, or even come close, for me.

When my Mosin Nagant M44 discharges, it sounds like you're closing your front door. That's my experience though.

They are the straightaway Model 10A from David Clark company.
 
Works great for me -- it's not high fidelity by any means, but works well for my timer app on the iphone.
I use mine this way as well. just need a male to male cord. I don't shoot on ranges with other people so I don't have to worry about hearing range commands but since the headphones can pick up ambient noises when i turn them on, it's more like having a radio on for everyone to enjoy but only I can actually hear if someone needs my attention.
That's how the voices in my head work too.
 
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