Is it that bad? Trap and skeet people..
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Murphys Law
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I shoot my old 870 Wingmaster often. Some days I'll shoot something else. Nobody cares. They are there to have fun too. As long as you keep the gun unloaded and action open when not on the line and always keep the muzzle in a safe direction you'll be fine. Be advised, people will get cranky when you sweep a muzzle across them, gun loaded or not wont matter, you can expect a response.
Bozwell
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I guess I don't fit the stereotype - I'm a lawyer with a nice car but I shoot a CZ-imported Huglu I paid $650 for. I shoot with people who own Berettas, Brownings, K guns and the like, and I also shoot with friends who bring out their old $150 Mossberg pump, but I've never had anyone give me a hard time about my gun. I have gotten quite a few compliments though. It's really all in how you conduct yourself. Everyone's out there to have a good time and if you're responsible and respectful, I highly doubt you'll find people being rude to you.
Vicious-Peanut
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Murphy's - I've had that done to me before. Loaded. Not fun.
@ Woodyard: I doubt he's shooting trap at the golf course. Also, depending on which state he is in it is perfectly legal to drink alcohol so long as said alcohol was furnished to him by a permitted person (e.g. parent, guardian, over 21 legal spouse etc.)
My personal experience with regards to shooting clays though with other people around is that I have none. I'm positive that I would be looked down upon though. What I do is I gather my two best friends and we go out to this one designated shooting range and bring my 18 inch cylinder bore 12 gauge pump and while one of us hand throws the pigeons out front. We practice safe and responsible shooting, but it is so far and away from what any organized clay sport is we don't care. I've only been once at this shooting range with other people besides us there, and it is miles away from the nearest home, so we don't care what people think as long as we have a blast (pun intended.) Having fun and being safe is what counts right?
My personal experience with regards to shooting clays though with other people around is that I have none. I'm positive that I would be looked down upon though. What I do is I gather my two best friends and we go out to this one designated shooting range and bring my 18 inch cylinder bore 12 gauge pump and while one of us hand throws the pigeons out front. We practice safe and responsible shooting, but it is so far and away from what any organized clay sport is we don't care. I've only been once at this shooting range with other people besides us there, and it is miles away from the nearest home, so we don't care what people think as long as we have a blast (pun intended.) Having fun and being safe is what counts right?
oneounceload
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DO be advised that some clubs do have restrictions on barrel lengths, as HD guns with short barrels tend to be VERY loud - so not only from a noise and safety standpoint, but sometimes from an equipment one (they can now and again trip the voice releases). Where I shoot, if you want to bring your short HD gun for grins and giggles, you'll be asked to take it to the skeet or 5-stand fields.
Those of us on the 5-stand field will welcome you, give you a ribbing, and if you shoot good, STILL give you a ribbing, just because everyone on this end of the club knows that OUR end is where the FUN is..............
David G.:
I don't understand the golf course comment but it sounds like he's shooting at an organized gun club Every one I know of has a no booze while shooting rule. Insurance companies require it, not to mention common sense. At an ATA registered shoot, if you have a drink after an event and then get called for a shootoff, you are disqualified from the shootoff. And no gun club manager with an ounce of sense would let minors drink on his property.
Where I shoot, nobody gives a rat's behind what kind of gun you bring as long as it's safe to shoot and you practice the rules of gun safety. Violate those rules and someone will point it out to you.
I don't understand the golf course comment but it sounds like he's shooting at an organized gun club Every one I know of has a no booze while shooting rule. Insurance companies require it, not to mention common sense. At an ATA registered shoot, if you have a drink after an event and then get called for a shootoff, you are disqualified from the shootoff. And no gun club manager with an ounce of sense would let minors drink on his property.
Where I shoot, nobody gives a rat's behind what kind of gun you bring as long as it's safe to shoot and you practice the rules of gun safety. Violate those rules and someone will point it out to you.
Dave McCracken
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Snobbery reeks.
Reverse snobbery reeks just as bad, and maybe worse at times.
I dress like a Redneck, am not instantly likeable by all, and fall short in the social graces sometimes.
But a lot of folks with fancy shotguns have handed me something that cost more than my Jeep (And sometimes my house) and let me play with their toys. They've done this after a few minutes acquaintance.
One shooting buddy has a few Perazzis, one fine upper tier Beretta O/U, and last gave his son a mint X1 trap gun for a starter shotgun.
He drives a school bus.
Another buddy, last I heard, was selling his Perazzi. He like his K80 better, with the custom wood and Mullers.
He hangs drywall.
In both cases, they decided shotgunning was where their discretionary income belonged and proceeded accordingly.
Some of my shooting partners are into single malts, tweeds, fine doubles of both persuasions and cuisine.
Others favor domestic lagers, jeans, pumpguns and old single shots and barbeque.
And steamed crabs.
Neither group sneers at the other.
Neither group shoots noticeably better.
When I've used a pumpgun, I've outshot and been outshot by members of both groups.
And when I've unlimbered the O/Us, same thing.
Neither group deemed either event Cosmically Significant.
And while there's a few folks I will not shoot with again, it's not because of snobbery on anyone's part.
It's because they're jerks.....
Finally, since on respondent mentioned Cherokee Rose, some shotgunning trivia....
A few decades ago, one VIP in the auto industry stayed there with his wife, enjoying the facilities and shooting. Shortly thereafter he had to name the new SUV his company was introducing.
That's why the Jeep Cherokee is the Jeep Cherokee....
Reverse snobbery reeks just as bad, and maybe worse at times.
I dress like a Redneck, am not instantly likeable by all, and fall short in the social graces sometimes.
But a lot of folks with fancy shotguns have handed me something that cost more than my Jeep (And sometimes my house) and let me play with their toys. They've done this after a few minutes acquaintance.
One shooting buddy has a few Perazzis, one fine upper tier Beretta O/U, and last gave his son a mint X1 trap gun for a starter shotgun.
He drives a school bus.
Another buddy, last I heard, was selling his Perazzi. He like his K80 better, with the custom wood and Mullers.
He hangs drywall.
In both cases, they decided shotgunning was where their discretionary income belonged and proceeded accordingly.
Some of my shooting partners are into single malts, tweeds, fine doubles of both persuasions and cuisine.
Others favor domestic lagers, jeans, pumpguns and old single shots and barbeque.
And steamed crabs.
Neither group sneers at the other.
Neither group shoots noticeably better.
When I've used a pumpgun, I've outshot and been outshot by members of both groups.
And when I've unlimbered the O/Us, same thing.
Neither group deemed either event Cosmically Significant.
And while there's a few folks I will not shoot with again, it's not because of snobbery on anyone's part.
It's because they're jerks.....
Finally, since on respondent mentioned Cherokee Rose, some shotgunning trivia....
A few decades ago, one VIP in the auto industry stayed there with his wife, enjoying the facilities and shooting. Shortly thereafter he had to name the new SUV his company was introducing.
That's why the Jeep Cherokee is the Jeep Cherokee....
The golf analogy is about as close as it gets. If you hit up a semi private golf course you will be looked down upon until you become a regular. If you had a good time with the range (not the people), go back again and again ignoring those who were less than receptive. In time they will come to recognize you as a regular and all will calm down. Most of the ranges around here have an attitude towards new guys, which is not necessarily seen by the other regulars. If you are behaving you will become one of the guys and then turn into one of the elitists that you currently don't care for.
Be courteous, polite, and listen to the regulars when given some advice even if you don't agree.
I shoot lots of 410. It took several months before I found the 410 group of guys. Once I started hanging out with them and was able to show my ability to behave I was welcomed as one of the guys. Now I go out of my way to welcome people who look "lost" or new to the range. I know several of the old farts that would rather not see new faces at "their" range.
As with most people who have spent a bunch of money on a particular item (shotgun, fishing gear, golf clubs...) they have dedicated their resources towards what they feel is making them better. In some cases they will express their opinion to you and wonder why on earth you are using an (what they consider) inferior firearm.
Be courteous, polite, and listen to the regulars when given some advice even if you don't agree.
I shoot lots of 410. It took several months before I found the 410 group of guys. Once I started hanging out with them and was able to show my ability to behave I was welcomed as one of the guys. Now I go out of my way to welcome people who look "lost" or new to the range. I know several of the old farts that would rather not see new faces at "their" range.
As with most people who have spent a bunch of money on a particular item (shotgun, fishing gear, golf clubs...) they have dedicated their resources towards what they feel is making them better. In some cases they will express their opinion to you and wonder why on earth you are using an (what they consider) inferior firearm.
Hocka Louis
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Sit back and watch a round or two BEFORE shooting for the first time and let the range/puller know you are new to it. They may well squad you with non-competitors. Experts (Distinguished and otherwise) just don't have the patience for a disrupted line -- they are SO serious. Always. The game is for 25's. Any and every miss is a personal failure. New shooters break the rhythm.
A good way to tell is if everyone else is wearing hats, colored glasses with dipoter sights or a spot on one lens or one blacked out lense but shades on the temples no mater what, shooting coats and belts, they save their hulls, look at shells often on the line after shooting, yell something other than "pull," have barrel rests on their boots, cheek welds that make their face look like rubber melting over the stock, molded plugs in their ears, tight gloves, and $15,000 guns...
...go to the next range or wait and watch.
A good way to tell is if everyone else is wearing hats, colored glasses with dipoter sights or a spot on one lens or one blacked out lense but shades on the temples no mater what, shooting coats and belts, they save their hulls, look at shells often on the line after shooting, yell something other than "pull," have barrel rests on their boots, cheek welds that make their face look like rubber melting over the stock, molded plugs in their ears, tight gloves, and $15,000 guns...
...go to the next range or wait and watch.
Inebriated
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Yes. And it's at the golf course. I don't drink when I shoot.
This. No one tends to care that I'm 4 months from an arbitrary number.
Let me refer you to my first comment... The bold refers to the golf course. The underlined refers to skeet.
That clear things up?
sohcgt2
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Sounds as if you might be one of those the OP was complaining about. If I know someone shooting near me is new to the sport I will try to offer some assistance even if its just encouragement. I used to shoot with a Hall of Famer and thats where I learned that attitude. Just like golf my only competition is myself and the sporting clays course (I prefer sporting clays to skeet and trap).
Most of that describes me...except you have an extra zero on cost of the gun. I wear Oakley shooting glasses, molded ear plugs, a shooting vest, and I save my hulls for a friend who reloads.
Not so much elite as functional. The Oakleys help me see the clays. The sooner I see them the better my chance of hitting them. I decided one set of molded ear plugs was cheaper than 10 boxes of expanding foam ear plugs. The vest has pockets for shells and hulls so all I have to carry to the line is my shotgun. I also wear a hat most of the time, Summit racing, Ford, or Snap-On tools, because they seem to get to me for free and keep my head from getting sunburned.
243winxb
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pump gun- Dont make us old guys shooting fancy O/U look bad by beating us.
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