NASCAR renames race....NRA 500
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Sam1911
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Errr....I'm not sure I want the NRA sponsoring a video game. Several ways that could go:
1) Shooting Sports Games: and as any spectators of shooting competitions know, that's deadly dull to watch -- and if you ever played any of the video games that simulated shooting galleries, they were mind-blowingly boring as well. (EDIT: It is brought to my attention that NRA did in fact produce some of these and they have been, as expected, horrid failures.)
2) Hunting games. I'm sure there's a fun one...somewhere. And the 2nd Amendment is about hunting...
3) Lawful Self-Defense Encounters: Hooo boy. Who wants to play through 100 levels of De-Escalate and Avoid, or "Be the Bigger Man and De-fuse Conflict," to finally get to the level where you get to take ONE shot and then sit through trial, counseling, and then you're pilloried in the press, lose your job, and your're so stressed and broke that your wife leaves you? Hey, fun!
4) Shoot-em-up! Need I say more?
5) Armed resistance to tyrrany...
Yeah...I think I'm glad they're staying out of the video game industry.
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General Geoff
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Pretty sure there are already plenty of games with that angle... just none with the official endorsement of the NRA. It could work out really well, if it was a game about a real historical conflict like the American Revolution.
Sam1911
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Right! And I think all would agree its best things stay that way. Its one thing to be an independent game studio writing a release that shows violence, rebellion, murder, mayhem, assassination, treason, etc., etc. -- and that's just fine so long as it doesn't MEAN anything.
A group like the NRA with a deadly serious raison d'etre that is not-so-loosely associated with the concept of armed resistance to government over-reach needs to stay very far away from anything that looks like a propaganda or training tool on how to kill government troops.
Now that could be pretty cool, though we could absolutely expect the more "with-it" of our opponents to decry it as a veiled call to revolt.
Actually regarding 3 look up the SWAT series...for added fun watch the Spoony Let's Play of them...and parts of LA Noire regarding the last one. 4 is so vague it could run the gambit from Call of Duty to Deus Ex and 5 for that matter.Errr....I'm not sure I want the NRA sponsoring a video game. Several ways that could go:
1) Shooting Sports Games: and as any spectators of shooting competitions know, that's deadly dull to watch -- and if you ever played any of the video games that simulated shooting galleries, they were mind-blowingly boring as well
2) Hunting games. I'm sure there's a fun one...somewhere. And the 2nd Amendment is about hunting...
3) Lawful Self-Defense Encounters: Hooo boy. Who wants to play through 100 levels of De-Escalate and Avoid, or "Be the Bigger Man and De-fuse Conflict," to finally get to the final level where you get to take ONE shot and then sit through trial, counseling, and then you're pilloried in the press, lose your job, and your're so stressed and broke that your wife leaves you? Hey, fun!
4) Shoot-em-up! Need I say more?
5) Armed resistance to tyrrany...
Yeah...I think I'm glad they're staying out of the video game industry.
I mean with 1 and 2...duck hunt was cool. But yeah these days those games are generally pilloried as bad and dull, and honestly they are.
I mean more along the lines of sponsoring video game contest and sims, specifically military themed ones (I mean Larry Vickers did a deal with the last Medal of Honor game...which wasn't good, but its more the effort)...hell Assassins Creed 3 would have worked nicely, but my point was more outside the norm areas.
Still back to my original idea: John Milius teaches history....while intoxicated...who isn't up for that?
KDS
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I think it's a good idea. I am sure many NASCAR fans are gun owners, but how many are NRA members? I see this as a membership drive and I don't mind at all.
Sergei Mosin
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I see what you did there.
NASCAR isn't just a rural Southern sport any more. Although NASCAR fans are stereotyped as gun-totin' rednecks, and some of us are, it's got a broader appeal than that now. It's gone mainstream. And NASCAR is an advertising machine. It provides a vehicle for reaching a nationwide television audience with your message. Done right, this can be a great relationship for both NASCAR and the NRA.
mljdeckard
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.......I'll try to get my head around it.
ugaarguy
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I like it. ESPN, which is part of ABC, had some blatantly anti gun comments after Newtown. ESPN is also big on NASCAR coverage since, as others have noted, NASCAR has mainstream appeal. I'm going to enjoy seeing how the MSM handles this. Let's also not forget that NASCAR paychecks have attracted international driving talents like Juan Pablo Montoya.
I think (as far as my puny opinion goes) that this is definitely a good move for the NRA. Getting those three letters pasted onto a national sport that is also very sympathetic to it's mission is great. Whenever the anti gun folks complain about it, NASCAR and the majority of it's fans will just tell them to go fly a kite.
Whenever I'm watching a race and the boring segments come up, I start trying to locate Danica Patrick's car and that always wakes me up.
Whenever I'm watching a race and the boring segments come up, I start trying to locate Danica Patrick's car and that always wakes me up.
Inebriated
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I agree.
But, any membership gained is a good thing.
ThorinNNY
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Well, seems to me I saw a lot of new NRA members being signed up on the boardwalk in Galveston, Tx in 2007 B.E.D.*. That huge hotel-what was it called? there was hosting a biker convention & many bikers signed up.
* Before E.B. Died
* Before E.B. Died
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In the words of DW - Boogity, Boogity, Boogity - Go NASCAR/ Funniest thing I have heard so far was some left-winger on radio this morning saying the drivers would boycott something sponsored by NRA. Probably most of them are carrying in the car.
ApacheCoTodd
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I'll bet they could have the single most amazing race in the history of all motorsports and it'd still receive a virtual media blackout afterwards if the reporters were contractually required to use the letters NRA in a form which can't be twisted to their agenda.
As far as the NRA seeking the endorsement goes: I think it's a master stroke in giving the organization the same mainstream limelight as Lowe's or any of the other sponsors.
If you get bored and want a laugh, see how THEY are already given to fits of frothing rage by reading the top returns from the likes of The Bluffington Boast and Yawhocares and don't forget to read the responses from their loyal minions at the bottom of each "report".
As far as the NRA seeking the endorsement goes: I think it's a master stroke in giving the organization the same mainstream limelight as Lowe's or any of the other sponsors.
If you get bored and want a laugh, see how THEY are already given to fits of frothing rage by reading the top returns from the likes of The Bluffington Boast and Yawhocares and don't forget to read the responses from their loyal minions at the bottom of each "report".
Let's be honest most people who have no interest in NASCAR most likely heard about it when Dale Earnhardt died and if there was a big crash.
That said I'll give NASCAR credit for bringing in 50 Cent, they are really and honestly trying to expend their demographics and fanbase.
Honestly for something that my dad once described as having it's origins in "hillbilly moonshiners outrunning cops"* they've done a hell of a job at mainstreaming something that really was the prototypical...uhm ah screw it... redneck sport.
*For the record I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic..or perhaps there is some car racing sport or group that came out of that...I have no clue.
Sam1911
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They only say that because stock car racing started as an outshoot of the moonshiners in the Appalachian hills souping up their cars to be able to outrun the law enforcement trying to bust them for making illegal/untaxed distilled spirits. http://ezinearticles.com/?NASCAR---The-Backwoods-Roots&id=786944
You know, that is most likely exactly why he said that. Neat. Thanks!
Lj1941
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Just ignore a person like Piers Morgan for a while and he will eventually go away -hopefully back across the pond where he will be among like minded Socialists!
Go ahead and bet. I'll take your money.
JustinJ
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Now that's funny. Reminds me of a spoof i once saw of a "Civil War" shooter. Fire, spend 45 seconds reloading, fire, repeat.
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DingDingDing Winner!
Only took 32 posts for someone to hit the nail on the head. NASCAR folk are self-proclaimed red-blooded, America-loving Americans. Thirty-six races times an average of 100,000 live spectators (plus many times that number on TV)...now, how many are gun owners? Answer: probably, a significant majority. How many gun owners are NRA members? Not enough.
If the NRA can boost membership through race sponsorship, I am all for it.
Why is AARP so powerful? They have convinced seniors (and those approaching that age) that AARP is their One True Hope. And they have convinced Congress that Woe Be Unto He Who Crosses AARP.
If all gun owners were NRA members (Hell, if 20% were NRA members) we would be hearing very little from His Majesty BHO, from head Court Jester Biden, and from erstwhile Queen Nancy.
There was some really crappy budget games that actually featured something like that if IIRC.
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