Why is the Government preparing for war with its citizens?

Maybe they know something that we'd rather not admit!

I should show this to one particular person in my family, but he'll just say "Who's that guy? How do you know he's not a spokesman for the DHS? He could be someone sent out to distract everyone from watching what's really going on!"

BK said:

I should show this to one particular person in my family, but he'll just say "Who's that guy? How do you know he's not a spokesman for the DHS? He could be someone sent out to distract everyone from watching what's really going on!"

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I was going to link this video to some of my tin foil hat wearing buddies, but they'd probably come back with the same argument.

They are die hard Infowars devotees, so it's almost a lost cause. I already ticked them off for telling them they think like liberals, running on emotion and misinformation rather than reason and logic.

There not.

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They're not.


This guy makes sense.

Watched the vid. Seems logical, but then again.... Senator Tom Coburn from Oklahoma has actually brought the issue up for questioning, and other officials are starting to ask DHS point blank why they need the ammo. The Government Accountability Office (GAO) has been asked to investigate. I remember seeing an article where the DHS had been found to have a current stockpile of slightly over 200 million rounds in various calibers, and that was supposed to be for 5 years worth of operations.

Whether or not there is any truth to the size of the purchases, there are larger truths that nobody can deny. For starters, the power of police is growing in this country. The people don't trust the government, and the government doesn't trust the people. The general population is in what I would call an "apocalyptic mood." Even your sig line, ccsniper, demonstrates my point. Prudent people across the country are seeing danger, and are suspicious of any new thing that even slightly smells like tyranny. Whether or not there is truth to the bullet purchase issue, the fact that it is being discussed is a symptom of how edgy everyone is. Edginess alone can be a dangerous thing.

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Did you mean There....not! or They're not?

These days I'm always wary of manipulated interpretations/presentations.
From time to time throughout history a party will revel in false exposures to fall back on the, say for example; "vast right wing conspiracy" defense to set another pary back on its heels and distract from another topic.

So, am I concerned about the "info" regarding the volume of purchases or the level of technologies? Not so much as I am by the deafening silence of any attempt to allay the citizen/tax payer's concerns over the issue.

More people may watch if you tell us something more about the video

His final piece of logic makes sense as long as we remain armed. But given the effort underway to disarm us through legislation, that would be plenty of armed "troops" and plenty of rounds for the few whom they think would actually defy the new laws and resist.

When have they not been doing so? Whiskey Rebellion or the Bonus Army ring any bells?

I'm still waiting for proof from Area 51 and the JFK investigators (grin)

The DHS hasn't bought a single one of those rounds. This is a request for bids to sell DHS up to 1.6 billion rounds over 5 years. When you consider the fact that there are over 100,000 armed officers with DHS who need to practice on a regular basis this is really not much ammo.

Some thoughts:
A duty weapon does not need hollow points to prove it will cycle. After 500 rounds you have broken the gun in, it will feed or it won't. Not a conspiracy, just your government wasting $$$$.

As for the comparison to Afghanistan I don't think Americans are near as crazy as the Taliban. How many of your buddies at the gun club are up for suicide bombing?

I get the contract points, but as mentioned above why won't Big Sis testify to Congress?

I agree part of this is red herring. But I think just like the terrorist are probing us the government is testing the people. If you think the constitution is a dead old document they win. Move along people, nothing to see here.

Info Wars followers should be banned from using the internet.. much like keeping other mentally unstable people from accessing firearms.

His statement about DHS subjugating the populace and all the gun owners resisting is overly simplified.
The Taliban/Al Quada are fighting for religious beliefs and they really don't have cr@p to hold on to.
The American gun owner has a job to go to so he can keep paying his mortgage and keep his family in a home, and to keep his iPhone working. Most Americans will comply out of fear.

Info Wars followers should be banned from using the internet.. much like keeping other mentally unstable people from accessing firearms.

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Constitution for the United States of American

Article I, sec 8; The Congress shall have Power To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

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Militia Act of 1792,
Second Congress, Session I. Chapter XXVIII
Passed May 2, 1792

...sufficient to suppress such insurrection

http://www.constitution.org/mil/mil_act_1792.htm

Watched the vid, seems reasonable. But, then,..........what do YOU think DHS would be capable of if there were some kind of national emergency? Imagine a radical foreign religious group setting off a nuke in DC or LA, the government declaring martial law, and whether your gun rights, or ANY rights would be honored by the DHS or military anywhere ELSE in the country. Take a look at how people were treated during Katrina, and you get a small picture of what the government is capable of. They are not going to be the smiling, helpful servants like Christians on a mission trip. You can believe any video the makes you feel warm and fuzzy, or trip out on a conspiracy theory. I'm somewhere in the middle.

That's why I don't trust any news site. There's no such thing an non biased news in America. In all reality none of us have a clue what's really going on.

Let's just concentrate on keeping the right to buy what we feel is necessary, and hopefully we never have to use it on other humans.

KimberUltra said:

That's why I don't trust any news site. There's no such thing an non biased news in America. In all reality none of us have a clue what's really going on.

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What he said^^

joeschmoe said:

Constitution for the United States of American

Article I, sec 8; The Congress shall have Power To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

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Militia Act of 1792,
Second Congress, Session I. Chapter XXVIII
Passed May 2, 1792

...sufficient to suppress such insurrection

http://www.constitution.org/mil/mil_act_1792.htm

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Just keep in mind that's only one side of the coin.

OP, thanks for posting. Great video.

Crazyjennyblack raises important aspects of this dialogue. While the video presents for useful info, it does not make the fear of our government less relevant. I am a psychologist and have led many therapy groups. Therapist always operate from the recognition that comments and questions from anyone in a group, especially if it comes up a few times, will generally reflect some important aspect of the group process. While some distrust of government is always present to some degree, we should not push aside the growing fear of our federal government. Such fear is accelerated by the pattern of disdain for public opinion demonstrated by the Obama administration.