Look how much hate there is for the NRA

M2 Carbine said:

If the antigun people didn't hate the NRA I would be worried.


Really, it's fair, I'm a NRA life member and I hate everything about the anti gun crowd. I wouldn't give them a bucket of water if they were on fire.
So, if they do not hate me, then I must be doing something wrong.

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I'm with M2 Carbine but it wasn't a bucket of water I'd refuse in case of fire. tom.

First they came for the punishment of cigarette smokers, I did not smoke, so said nothing.

That is the crux, the general public, including many here on this forum, thought it was OK to go after those nasty habit smokers.

So now that the brain washing and pre-conditioning of the public to go after gun owners the same as smokers has been codified. As an anti smoker that should not cause you too much angst, after all, you stayed silent (acquiescence) or even vocal, in support for laying the SOP ground work of your own demonization and demise.

Kim said:

A lot of our politicians at like 8y/o brats. No wonder we live in a sick society. Immature.

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A great many so called pro-2nd Amendment politicians want nothing more than to be really, really, loved on the DC cocktail circuit and get their smug mugs on tv'ee.

If I said what I really thought of our two Arizona lick spittle US senators, I would be banned from THR in a heartbeat.

wetpowder said:

they hate the NRA because they fear them.

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What they fear, they hate, so therefore, they must destroy the NRA.

GambJoe said:

I stand by what I wrote. Armed guards, cops and security camera's everywhere isn't a way to raise children. Unless you're educating them to live in a police state.

So the NRA and Obama agree with each other regarding adding security in schools. I don't.

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Well what do you propose? I have children age 16, 5, & 2 so this issue is important to me. And with all due respect you statement is part of the problem. The school is not raising my kids. I am. Their morals and beliefs are taught by me. Parents who want the schools to raise them at the problem. The lack of family structure by other parents bothers me and unfortunately for the safety of my kids guards and cameras are the best solution we have.

If you have a better solution please share.

GambJoe said:

I stand by what I wrote. Armed guards, cops and security camera's everywhere isn't a way to raise children. Unless you're educating them to live in a police state.

So the NRA and Obama agree with each other regarding adding security in schools. I don't.

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The single most effective steps in making schools safer would be to remove their mythical "gun-free zone" designation and allow teachers and administrators to carry on campus. Both measures are free and don't involve uniformed guards or surveillance cameras. They involve only allowing people to exercise their RKBA.

If you really want to get them upset, lets get Ted Nugent and Hank Williams Jr. to do the commercials, just need to catchy gun-oriented jingles. I can still remember "are you ready for some football???" I'm sure they could come up with something fitting for the event. "are you ready for some FREEDOM?"

TennJed said:

Well what do you propose? I have children age 16, 5, & 2 so this issue is important to me. And with all due respect you statement is part of the problem. The school is not raising my kids. I am. Their morals and beliefs are taught by me. Parents who want the schools to raise them at the problem. The lack of family structure by other parents bothers me and unfortunately for the safety of my kids guards and cameras are the best solution we have.

If you have a better solution please share.

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I propose we all accept the risk that is inherent with living in a free society and teach our children the same -- that freedom and liberty involves risk, and that the benefits of living in a society that allows liberty and freedom is well worth those risks.

I have school-age children, too...and I accept the fact that school violence is a phenomenally rare occurrence given the number of schools that operate every day and the number of kids who are in attendance at those schools. I accept that they are far more likely to die in a car accident or a house fire or dozens of other 'freak' occurrences than they are in a school shooting.

I propose we all accept the risk that is inherent with living in a free society and teach our children the same -- that freedom and liberty involves risk, and that the benefits of living in a society that allows liberty and freedom is well worth those risks.

I have school-age children, too...and I accept the fact that school violence is a phenomenally rare occurrence given the number of schools that operate every day and the number of kids who are in attendance at those schools. I accept that they are far more likely to die in a car accident or a house fire or dozens of other 'freak' occurrences than they are in a school shooting.

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YES! This is America, free and at risk by virtue of being free. Why do so many people want to change that?

Kim said:

A lot of our politicians at like 8y/o brats. No wonder we live in a sick society. Immature.

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We NEED a like button so I can LIKE this post.............

I'll bet the Japanese weren't big fans of the American Legion and the Veterans of Foreign Wars in 1945 either.

Bad people always hate it when other people do good.

The proper response is to rub their noses in it every chance you get.

I've written to Chris Murphy to express my outrage.

I propose we all accept the risk that is inherent with living in a free society and teach our children the same -- that freedom and liberty involves risk, and that the benefits of living in a society that allows liberty and freedom is well worth those risks.

I have school-age children, too...and I accept the fact that school violence is a phenomenally rare occurrence given the number of schools that operate every day and the number of kids who are in attendance at those schools. I accept that they are far more likely to die in a car accident or a house fire or dozens of other 'freak' occurrences than they are in a school shooting.

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Very well stated and right on the money.

Has anyone besides me noticed the total lack of mention of the NRA Sponsorship of the race.

Jim

jauguston said:

Has anyone besides me noticed the total lack of mention of the NRA Sponsorship of the race.

Jim

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I don't normally watch NASCAR, do they usually make a point to mention the sponsor?

Where is all the hate for Budweiser or Jack D? A lot of people have died in car accidents from folks drinking too much, ruined health, and families from drinking too much alcohol.

I don't agree with blaming Budweiser or liquor stores for a drunk anymore than I agree with blaming a gun. It is the PERSON who misuses products that cause problems, not the product.

Get with it. The anti gun attitude is all about bigotry: demonizing, willful ignorance, hate, stereotyping. Everything that made the Jim Crow laws possible.

We need to treat it like bigotry and a civil rights matter.

I keep getting called a low intelligence, uneducated, hillbilly with...well, let's just say people claim to know more about my private parts than my wife of 39 years. Why? Because I have guns and speak out against those who would restrict my rights.

Most of those who attack me aren't fit to hold my coat.

ECS

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TennJed said:

Well what do you propose? I have children age 16, 5, & 2 so this issue is important to me. And with all due respect you statement is part of the problem. The school is not raising my kids. I am. Their morals and beliefs are taught by me. Parents who want the schools to raise them at the problem. The lack of family structure by other parents bothers me and unfortunately for the safety of my kids guards and cameras are the best solution we have.

If you have a better solution please share.

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A better solution is likely in fences and more effective lock down doors.. I saw a number of pictures that appeared to show the front door of sandyhook, with the glass broken out of the door.. If you can smash the glass and open the door, you don't have a lock, you have a suggestion!

Security planning at schools is terrible. I can walk into most of the schools in my area, no fences and the same glass windowed "security door" on each one. On the other hand, there is a warehouse that has power tools at it next door. They have 10 foot security fences topped with barbed wire and doors that I doubt a truck could ram open. To protect drills and saws already covered by their insurance, not human lives.

Schools can be both secure and inviting. fencing does not need to be ugly. And doors don't have to look armored. Guards are actually more likely to be effective if they are out of sight. Arming teachers is not an idea I'm fond of, it may be effective, but its a stereotype answer the NRA should have avoided.

But actual improvements cost money. Blaming the NRA is cheap and keeps parents from suing the school for totally failing to provide basic grounds security.

Unfortunatly the NRA 500 may get put down even more...

yahoo.com news said:

The death of a man in the infield of Texas Motor Speedway on Saturday night during the Sprint Cup Series NRA 500 has been ruled a suicide from a gunshot to the head according to the Tarrant County Medical Examiner's office.

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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nasca...s-self-infield-nra-500-214951761--nascar.html

With the media against the NRA sponsering this race, it will be interesting to see how this will be spun...

The hate for the NRA is because they are the only major roadblock to the anti's real goal ...... to completely disarm the America People. Remember, only free men in free countries own guns ....nowhere else in the entire world!

jauguston said:

Has anyone besides me noticed the total lack of mention of the NRA Sponsorship of the race.

Jim

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I watched most of the race, and also noticed this. While lack of sponsorship mention may happen during the broadcast of other races, it was glaringly apparent in this one.

Tob said:

I watched most of the race, and also noticed this. While lack of sponsorship mention may happen during the broadcast of other races, it was glaringly apparent in this one.

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I checked into that after the first post on the subject. From what I read NASCAR and Fox offer a "Premium" sponsorship package which includes extra logos and broadcaster's mentioning them by name. The NRA declined to purchase this package. If this is the case (and this how all NASCAR races are handled) you can't blame the TV network for it

I saw a billboard-size NRA sign in the background, but no it does not appear to have been a "premium" sponsorship package where they constantly refer to the sponsor.