Remington Express Rifle ammo issues

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Remington Express Rifle ammo issues - Updated with pic of "duds" - Light strikes?

I bought a box of Rem Express Rifle in 45-70 today and took it to the range to shoot out of my 1895. I had 3 duds out of the 16 rounds I shot. For a $42 box of ammo, this seems pretty bad.

Has any one else had issues with the Express Rifle rounds? I plan on calling Remington tomorrow to let them know, but I'm wondering if it will fall on deaf ears. Has anyone had luck with Remington making good on a bad box of ammo?

Updated: Upon closer inspection, it looks like the dud rounds may have actually had light primer strikes.

Here is a pic of the rounds that did not fire. The 2 rounds on the left fired successfully and the rounds on the right - indicated by my incredible editing skills - are the ones that did not fire. Do these look like light strikes to you? If so, the 1895 will probably be taking a trip to the smith.

Can anyone give me an idea of what the problem may be and an estimate of cost to repair? Firing pin and/or spring?

Thanks for any help

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No. The duds were random within the 16 shots I took. The primers not appear to be struck lightly because that was my first thought as well.
 
I had a problem with misfires from my .30-30 marlin. Turns out the headspace needed snugging up. Had to have a smith install a new locking block.
 
Never had a problem with the express ammo, but I've never shot it in that caliber, either. What's the mark on the primer look like?
 
Interesting, I had the same problem with a box of 7.62x39 ammo. Fired out of a brand new CZ 527 carbine half the rounds needed a second hit to fire. One round never fired after 4 tries still wouldn't fire. Mind you I put 100 rds of steel cased and 60 + rds of hand loads and they all fired. looked on the end flaps for a lot number and nothing there
 
looks like those could be light strikes, they certainly are lighter than the others

is this gun new to you? did you buy it new or used?

how many rounds have you fire thru the gun?

i just looked at 1 of my spent 45-70 cases (Rem case, cci primer) shot from 1895 and the strike mark looks like yours on the left
 
The rifle is new to me, I bought it used a few months ago but yesterday was the first day I've taken it out shooting. It's a pre-remington 1895, year of manufacture is 2000.

I shot 16 rounds through it yesterday.
 
I am frequently wrong in my opinions! Having said this, those strikes do not appear to be especially light to my eyes. I have popped quite a few primers after pulling bullets, etc. and they resemble your photos. Hope it is a simple ammo problem, rather than something mechanical on your end.
 
JeffDilla,
If you bought the rifle used it's possible that the previous owner changed or modified the hammer spring. It's a common upgrade for CASS folks since it makes it easier/faster to work the lever since the bolt cocks the hammer and the lever moves the bolt. I have LongHunter hammer springs in both of my 1894s and they work just fine with pistol primers. LongHunter also sells hammer springs for the 1895 so I tried them but had to revert to the factory springs due to light hammer strikes and misfires with reloaded ammunition using CCI primers.

As for your photos, the primer strikes on the right do look to be light.
 
a weak (weaker) spring and a flinch fwd could be enough to cause the light strikes....if you get a chance, try to shoot these rounds again and see if they go bang -

yes-the gun;

no - possibly the ammo

hope it turns out to be a minor fix for you either way
 
Unless those primers are below flush with the rest of the case head, it's not the ammo. Those are definitely light indents.
 
It's possible that someone messed with the hammer spring or that the rifle's headspace has loosened up. Happened to me and had to have a gunsmith fit a new locking block (the part that slides up into the bolt to keep it from shooting the bolt into your head). This part must be fitted.
 
They do not look too light to me, but I could be wrong. It is worth noting that a primer dent on a fired case is deeper than the same dent on a case that did not fire.
 
Just got back from dropping the rifle off at the gunsmith. He said he could take it down and and check it out pretty cheaply.

I had taken the bolt out and cleaned it out around the firing pin, but in the end I decided it would just be better for him to take a look at it before I ended up bringing the whole gun out there in a pile of parts.
 
Update for any of those interested: I picked up my rifle from the gunsmith yesterday and he took it down and said he could find no issues with the rifle that would cause light primer strikes. I brought the rounds in the above picture with me to ask his opinion and after examining them he thought that they should have fired.

Out of curiosity, I contacted Remington to ask if they've had any issues with the Rifle Express and explained my situation. They took my information and emailed me a prepaid return label and said they'd like to examine the rounds and asked me to return the remaining unfired rounds and the "dud" rounds. They indicated I'd be reimbursed for the box of ammo. We'll see what happens.
 
Glad to see that your rifle is ok. I hope your gunsmith checked the headspace. I had a similar problem with an older Marlin in .30-30 which required a fitted locking block to tighten up the headspace. No more misfires.
 
I'll find out tomorrow when I run another box of ammo through the rifle. I'm really interested to see what Remington will do now that I've sent the rest of that ammo back. I'm hoping they make good. Those rounds aren't cheap!
 
My opinion is that your gunsmith is right. Those dents should have been amply deep enough to start the ignition process. Dents with similar depth have always went off in rifles for me and dents on pistol primers with a lot less depth ( New Glocks for one ) always go bang though a pistol primer may be more sensitive and require less " pop ".

My concern would be the inconsistency of primer dent depth your rifle exhibits.
 
For anyone wondering: I ran a box of Leverevolution through my Marlin today without single a misfire or hiccup. All the firing pin indents on the primers looked consistently deep. Looks like my rifle is back on track.

Time will tell what Remington decides to do with my box of ammo and if they'll make good on it.
 
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