BobTheTomato
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Has anyone had a chance to handle a Taurus ctg29 carbine? Saw it on their website and was curious.
Taurus ctg29 carbine
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I handled one at a lgs I really wanted to like it, but it was heavy about 7 pounds and the safty is too far forward I could not reach the it without almost removing my hand from the grip. it pointed nicely and should have zero recoil due to the weight but I think there are better options out there
I still don't understand the appeal. You can get a hipoint for $200 less with virtually the same specs-- Same capacity, better customer service and even a hair lighter. AHMYGAWDTAURUSMADEACARBIIIIIIIINE! Maybe if they would have produced higher cap mags. But nope.
Russian Hammer
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If it took sten/sterling/mp5/Uzi mags I'd be interested, but it would need some work to not look so ugly
Jackal
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Size, weight, cost of an AR15 and made by Taurus? Sign me up. (please read the sarcasm this was written with). Seriously, I have nothing against Taurus, I've had good ones and bad, just like any other company. But the technical specs, combined with the price just send me running in the other direction. Seems like Hi Point carbine looks REALLY good compared to this. Hipoint is lighter, likely more reliable (since I have not used the Taurus, I say "likely"), half the cost, customer service/warranty repair is better and easier. I have had one of pretty much every 9mm carbine (Ruger, Beretta, Marlin, Hi Point, Kel Tec, etc) and the HiPoint's are by far the best for the money. They are cheap/ugly, but they just work.
nwilliams
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Personally I would pay $200 not to own a Hi-Point Carbine. Nothing against Hi Point as a company I just their guns are hideous looking and the the Hi Point carbines I've handled I was wasn't impressed with. I don't find the Taurus CTG-29 to be eye candy by any means but it's kinda neat looking, the problem is that it's a Taurus and I refuse to buy anything from them. Taurus was at one time a decent company but I think in the past few years their quality control just hasn't been there and I've heard too many horror stories about their CS.
IMO spend a few hundred more than the CTG-29 and get a Beretta CX4, it's attractive, reliable, accurate and can do anything the CTG-29 can do with Beretta quality behind it.
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With the $200 I saved off the Taurus (or more if you're throwing a Cx4 into the mix) I prettied that HiPoint up with ATI aftermarket stock for about $50-70 and accessorized. Now it's attractive, still reliable and can do everything both the CTG29 and CX4 does-- probably better if the internet famous torture testing is any indication.
The Hipoint still falls down on the 10 round proprietary mags (15 is the max I can find).
Crazy that it and the brand should jack your price up to $700+ though.
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I just got one to review...I like the controls, don't like the sights. Ten-round mags only, and mounted forward so that the whole gun is longer and more muzzle-heavy than it really should be. Fixed thumbhole stock. Trigger is pretty nice; a single-stage setup. Haven't had the chance to go out and shoot it yet.
Ctg29
I own one of these carbines and I have to say I love it!
The Pros:
It is heavy but I like that and it is well balanced in my opinion. The trigger is awesome-very crisp, light, no creep. The sights are great, visible and well made. With the rear sight you have the choice of the ghost ring or the notch. I don't like the notch but I love the ghost ring. The sights are moveable along the top rail so you can adjust your sight radius to suit your needs/preference, or just take them completely off and mount optics. The weapon's magazine well also doubles as a forward grip. This feature makes the weapon look a little odd but I was pleasantly surprised with the functionality. And last but not least, the weapon is very accurate out to 25 yards right out of the box with 115 grain FMJ target loads from Winchester. I have not tried it any further as of yet. Just haven't had the time. The carbine just shoots great!
Now for the cons:
The biggest con is that Taurus didn't meet the ATF's requirement for 10 US made parts. Because of that the gun is a "sporter" and all that entails:
1. Thumbhole stock
2. non-threaded barrel
3. Only ships with 10 round magazines. But you do get two! BTW, it also ships in a hard case.
The safety is a little forward so if you have short thumbs like me the position of the safety can be a little problematic. My wife didn't have any issue! If the weapon had a standard stock or an M4 style stock I don't think this would be an issue because one could push his/her palm around further without the center support piece of the stock getting in the way.
Because the weapon does not contain 10 US made parts, I am afraid that sales will be sluggish therefore there will not be demand for US made aftermarket parts, from Taurus or anyone else. Taurus would do well to gear up production of either the carbine or parts here in the states to make them ATF compliant. Then start selling the 30 round magazines!
Should I have waited to see if Taurus will start building these in the States? Maybe but I am glad I bought the gun. Like I said it is a lot of fun and it is a joy to shoot.
I own one of these carbines and I have to say I love it!
The Pros:
It is heavy but I like that and it is well balanced in my opinion. The trigger is awesome-very crisp, light, no creep. The sights are great, visible and well made. With the rear sight you have the choice of the ghost ring or the notch. I don't like the notch but I love the ghost ring. The sights are moveable along the top rail so you can adjust your sight radius to suit your needs/preference, or just take them completely off and mount optics. The weapon's magazine well also doubles as a forward grip. This feature makes the weapon look a little odd but I was pleasantly surprised with the functionality. And last but not least, the weapon is very accurate out to 25 yards right out of the box with 115 grain FMJ target loads from Winchester. I have not tried it any further as of yet. Just haven't had the time. The carbine just shoots great!
Now for the cons:
The biggest con is that Taurus didn't meet the ATF's requirement for 10 US made parts. Because of that the gun is a "sporter" and all that entails:
1. Thumbhole stock
2. non-threaded barrel
3. Only ships with 10 round magazines. But you do get two! BTW, it also ships in a hard case.
The safety is a little forward so if you have short thumbs like me the position of the safety can be a little problematic. My wife didn't have any issue! If the weapon had a standard stock or an M4 style stock I don't think this would be an issue because one could push his/her palm around further without the center support piece of the stock getting in the way.
Because the weapon does not contain 10 US made parts, I am afraid that sales will be sluggish therefore there will not be demand for US made aftermarket parts, from Taurus or anyone else. Taurus would do well to gear up production of either the carbine or parts here in the states to make them ATF compliant. Then start selling the 30 round magazines!
Should I have waited to see if Taurus will start building these in the States? Maybe but I am glad I bought the gun. Like I said it is a lot of fun and it is a joy to shoot.
MP5 magazines are proprietary and if MP5's were available at the same price point we'd all be all over them. There will be 3rd party mags if enough of these get sold.
The real problem is the price point. At ~$650 it's up against AK's and budget AR's. Cheaper than a Cx4 or PS90 but those are both pretty respectable/desirable guns. The CT9 would be a no-brainer at $400 IMHO.
But MP5s never were available at the same price point, so it's moot.
Who knows if enough will get sold for quality 3rd party mags to be available? One can say for certain that more would be sold for sure if a higher-capacity and common mag design was available.
wally
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IMHO not using an already in use pistol magazine makes it a total non-starter, and with the initial 10 round capacity limit on available mags its a total "why bother?".
Its a max of 10 imported parts from a list of 20, not all guns use all twenty of the parts, the ones not used, don't count.
But using a US made magazine is three parts off the list, wouldn't be hard to source the stock and furniture in the US, another one to three parts off the list. I think they've totally misread the market.
Its a max of 10 imported parts from a list of 20, not all guns use all twenty of the parts, the ones not used, don't count.
But using a US made magazine is three parts off the list, wouldn't be hard to source the stock and furniture in the US, another one to three parts off the list. I think they've totally misread the market.
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