Star----Line Brass?

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Conservidave

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I just picked up a bag of new starline brass in .45 auto and I cant believe how much tension i'm running into trying to seat my 230grn Berrys plated bullets. Is this out of the ordinary and Is this going to be a problem with pressure spikes or some other dangerous issue?

I have reloaded new RP and Winchester brass in the past and never experienced this kind of resistance seating a bullet.

Load is, 5.4grn Unique under a 230grn RN plated @ 1.270

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Dave
 
starline brass

hello ,did you try to run it through a sizing die first , new brass should have this done first ,and then flare the mouth of the cartridge case before trying to push the bullet ? i have had very good luck with berry's bullet's .:confused:
 
resized and flared all of it before loading. I usually only put barely enough flare to hold a bullet, with this brass I kept flaring until bullets would seat about 1/16" but it didn't help. I'm thinking it must be thicker brass than what I'm used to using.
 
Just got some .45 brass from Star-line. It is rather sticky-stiff first time thru the Lee Turret classic. With the new brass I just hit them with a little lube. I just run them through the stages, deprime (even though they are new), primer, powder and brass sizing open, set bullet, press and crimp.

I think there brass is very good.
 
I have found that star line brass is a bit tight when first loading. I use their 38 and 357 brass, and I think it is a little thicker brass than most. It is good brass though. I don't think you will have any pressure problems.
 
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well starline is good .I know some brass like rp is very light on neck tention I do like some .os long as it is consistant and will not fold the brass or shave the jacket it should be ok .
 
I use a lot of Starline in .38, .357, 9mm, and .40 cal.. As for seating issues, I've had none.

As long as you aren't shaving bullets or other wise deforming them, which is unlikely, a good tight fit is what you want. This is especially important with an auto loading cartridge, as it assures you of no setback issues during cycling. In fact, I don't bell my mouths at all, but I also load jacketed bullets. Either way, tighter is better, and you don't want to compromise that by over belling. It won't cause you any pressure issues, the integrity of the brass is very important, and one of the aspects of such is recognized by a good snug bullet to neck fit, as tight as possible without damaging bullets.

One more tip to help if you should inadvertently over bell. Every single bit of neck tension obtained with an auto loading cartridge of rimless design is obtained entirely by neck tension, which is derived from resized case diameter, and is not achieved through taper crimping. So, if the brass is not producing enough neck tension from resizing alone, one can not increase it by increasing the taper crimp, more taper crimp will in fact decrease neck tension. In other words, you should be pleased to have brass that is already producing good neck tension.

Keep on loading them, they'll be fine.

GS
 
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I agree with what gamestalker said. Tight is GOOD, unless you're destroying bullets or brass. I've had cases lose neck tension before, and that means major setback issues. Starline is my favorite brand of pistol brass in large part BECAUSE it seems to stay nice a tight for a very long time.
 
Yeah, I loaded a few hundred rounds of .45ACP in new Starline brass about a month or so ago, and yes it is tight. This is a good thing, Dave. I think you'll eventually come to love their brass and stop buying others. I did. As others here have mentioned, it stays that way longer than many others.
 
I wound up only seating 8 of the 50 rounds I had on deck last night, tonight
I sat down and finished the rest of the loads and only a few seemed excessively tight. Seriously guys, I was putting deep rings in the ogive of the bullets with the seater plug on those first 8 :what: the rest of them went just as I expected.......:confused: I'll see how they shoot this weekend.

Thanks for the input
Dave,
 
Starline brass IS thicker than other brands of brass, at least in the cartridges that I reload that I have a supply of Starline for (45 Colt, 45/70). you can tell by seeing how much water it holds by weight compared to how much water by weight a Remington or winchester cartridge case will hold.

They make good brass and it does last longer for me than other brands, especially Remington. You may find you might get a bit more velocity or be able to drop ever so slightly in powder charge weight and achieve the same velocity. As with all reloading practices - changing brass should dictate that you go carefully until you know what the impact may be.
 
Pull the Berry's bullets on one or two that were hard to seat.
See if the plating was noticeably indented. If it was, increase your bell a little more.
If not, shoot and enjoy.
With a moderate 45 load, the brass isn't poing affect pressure much at all. Loaded hot it might.
 
I never noticed * -- * brass to be excessively tight from the factory. You might need to flare the mouth just a little more on the Starline than you did with the Rem or Win brass.
 
Starline is good stuff. Just load as normal. They tend to run tight specs and are quality casings. I've used starline for every caliber I have (that they make product for).
 
Thanks fella's switched from 45acp as my XDS is sent back! Set my dillion square deal,up for 40 s&w and use Winchester &Starline also. Just got in 1000 rnds berrys 180gr FP and as you Guy's coverd, man did I have a time. win. smooth crimp die W/ .401 diam. other cleaned brass slid in great. but measurements are wearing me out! Powerpistol, Hi-skor, r all I can get so far in TENN. I have allot of work tomm. but reading this gave me great insight as iam faceing same issue's! Oh using my bullet puller is why all started,as bullets were getting out of round!
 
I've loaded thousands of Starline 7.62x25 and .357 SIG cases and haven't had any problems whatsoever with them.

I have far fewer in straight wall chamberings, but I have a few range pickup .44's, .45's and .357 Mag cases that are loaded with batches of mixed brass and they never seem to cause any problems.
 
I think I figured out what was going on. Apparently I just wasn't flaring the case mouths enough to get the bullets started. Im so used to running my well used brass that i'm probably a little too careful to not over flare.
All is good!

Dave,
 
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