Help me to finally get started

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mels95yj

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Ok, I've been planning on starting to reload for about 5 years now. I've bought pieces here and there and have been saving my brass, but the wife is bugging me to tell her something to get me for Christmas. She suggested I finally get everything I need to start reloading. So, I just want to make sure I'll have everything I need to get started before telling her. For now, I will only be loading 9mm. Speed is not an issue, nor is loading 10000 rounds a month. Here's what I currently have:

RCBS Chargemaster Combo 1500
Lee carbide dies
Lee pocket primer cleaner
Digital calipers from Harbor Freight
Workbench
ABC's of reloading book

Here's what I'm planning on getting:

Lee Classic turret press
Lee small and large safety prime
Lyman Pro Sifter tumbler & media
RCBS Universal loading blocks
RCBS bullet puller
RCBS powder funnel
Speer manual

Am I leaving anything out? Is there anything else that would be beneficial? Obviously, I need the components minus the brass. Thanks in advance for your help.
 
WHOOPS, just saw you had Speer listed at the end. I'd add at least one more. Hornady and Lyman are the other two that I have (in addition to Speer, which is a good one).

Also, I have never used a loading block when loading straight-walled cases on my Lee Turret. The brass goes in the shell holder at the beginning, and doesn't come out until the round is done, unless you want to weigh or measure it at some point(s) along the way.

Also, you'll want some kind of record keeping device. Maybe that's an excel spreadsheet, if you have a computer on your bench. More likely, it's a notebook.
 
My name is MELS, I also load and have loaded for about three years. Post a PM and we will discuss loading. I load 9mm, 45cal, 223, 243 and 308. Mostly .308.
 
Relaoding stuff, etc.

I started out with LEE dies, powder, full length sizing, neck sizing, crimping etc. They worked ok except for the powder dies. I have now began using the match Redding sizing and seating dies and have found them to be much more accurate and usable than lee. (Much more expensive) I also have the Lee turret press but have somehow now managed to use it as a single stage press. In other words, do each function separately, then go to next process. Greater accuracy, more control of each process and greater safety. (I found the turret press allowed me to go too fast and not safely.) skimping on cost seems okay at first but if you are looking for precision the cost is worth it. Example: I have been totally unable to get lee seating dies to give me accurate seating to +/- .015"COL. Now using the Redding dies, I am able to get accuracy to .002" and my groups show the result. Went from .95" to .368" with my .308 rifle. No disrespect to lee, they make great inexpensive dies, they just didn't work well for me on my lee turret press.
 
I've gone back and forth regarding the press. It's either between the Lee Classic or the RCBS Rock Chunker. Speed isn't an issue for me, so the single-stage RCBS would suffice. I'm just not sure on swapping out the dies each time. With me having the Chargemaster, I will be loading the powder manually with a funnel for each round.
 
Lee Classic Turret Press is great for my purposes. I can use it as a single stage if I want extreme control or let it index as I do now. I still have the control, but can go a little faster. I don't think you can beat the Lee system for the money.
 
I'm a big fan of the Rock Chucker for a first press

It will last forever and really, it isn't that big a deal to set your dies...It adds maybe 5 minutes to the process and you said speed wasn't an issue... once I figure out what is needed I make a dummy and drop it in the die box to ck the dies with the next time.

The RCBS will always produce concentric ammunition while my exp with turret presses period isn't as good. I like an O Press for solidity and single stage block loading is the best way to learn imo...Later you can buy the 1050, now learn how to reload safely first.

And there's always a use for a good single stage even after you graduate to a progressive or auto turret like the Lee, which by most accounts is a good press.
 
Do yourself a favor, and get a Rock Chucker press. You can use the Hornady quick change bushings to make swapping out dies easier. Even with the Charge Master 1500 you will still want a beam scale. Its good to check the CM1500 against a beam scale from time to time. The only time I use my Charge Master 1500 is for loading my belted magnum calibers. I love my CM1500, but could not imagine loading pistol rounds on it.
 
Forgot that I had bought a RCBS 5-0-5 beam scale long ago, but I do have one of those too.
 
Ok, here's my thoughts now. I'm thinking that with the Chargemaster, I will be dropping the charge manually for each round. So, I'm leaning more towards the Rock Chunker. Plus, down the road, I'd like to get a .308 rifle and reload for that. I've read that the priming tool on the RC isn't the best, and most recommend a hand primer. If that's the case, which one is the best? Here's my updated list of items to go with:

RCBS Rock Chunker Supreme
RCBS universal trays
Hornady conversion kit
Lyman tumbler
RCBS funnel
RCBS bullet puller
Loading manuals
Hand primer - which one?

Anything else?

Here's how I see it going (forgive me if I'm not 100%).

Tumble
Deprime & resize (with die)
Hand prime
Throw charge manually
Load bullet and crimp (with die)

Am I correct? Obviously, I'll be reading before starting, but I'm just talking overview. Sorry for the newbie questions.
 
I could have missed it but I didn't see anything for case trimming.
 
Sorry I didn't see the part were you put "down the road".Most people don't trim their pistol brass. But some do, me personally I only trim my rifle brass.
 
Anybody else? I may be going to get everything tomorrow. It looks like I'll probably go with the RCBS and list that's a few posts up and below. Anybody see anything that's missing from that list?

RCBS Rock Chunker Supreme
RCBS universal trays
Hornady conversion kit
Lyman tumbler
RCBS funnel
RCBS bullet puller
Loading manuals
Hand primer - which one?

Anything else?

Here's how I see it going (forgive me if I'm not 100%).

Tumble
Deprime & resize (with die)
Hand prime
Throw charge manually
Load bullet and crimp (with die)
 
RCBS Universal hand primer is really good, IMO.

Tumbling is nice for shiny cases, but unnecessary.
 
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You went from a Lee Classic Turret to an RCBS Rockchucker, why? I use a Classic Turret press for loading my handgun ammo and have also loaded plenty of .223 and 30-06 ammo on it. I remove the auto-index rod and use it as a single stage press. It's plenty heavy for loading rifle ammo. I probably wouldn't want to use the Deluxe Turret press for rifle ammo because the linkage and ram are lighter but I do know those who do use that press for rifle loads too.

I can safely load between 180 and 200 handgun rounds per hour on the Classic turret press priming on press and using a Pro Auto-disk to throw powder charges.
 
I loaded ammo on a Rockchucker for many years. I used an RCBS powder measure (checked periodically with a scale). Loading blocks were helpful to keep everything organized and I did a visual check of powder levels before bullet seating. It's a super strong and straightforward press but it is rather slow.

I never liked priming on the press. I used a Lee Auto Prime and liked it alot; Lee has replaced that product with the Auto Prime XL and the Ergo Prime. I think RCBS and Hornady make similar products.

I did without a tumbler in those early years but I have one now. It's not an absolute necessity but it's the easiest way to clean brass.

Sounds like you are good to go. I like the Lee Classic Turret press but I would recommend a press mounted (die mounted) powder measure to go with it.
 
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