Texas 51% signs and the presentation of a rifle at an event

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We're having an event at a hall in Texas where no liquor will be served, and it is a private event, but the hall itself has a Texas 51% sign due to the fact that when a caterer is contracted for the hall they do often serve alcohol. We plan to present an attendee with a rifle as a retirement gift. So..

Do I dare go to a police station and ask for them to clarify the law.

I've had a tough time finding if the Texas 51% sign applies to a rifle as the sign says "weapon" yet the code I find talks about handguns.

More legal confusion...
 
You have rented the hall?

The 51% means that over 50% of the business income is from sale of booze. Not because of the booze itself.

You, as renter, can remove the sign (or cover it) since you're not doing booze sales as a business.

The only way I'm wrong (maybe) is if the caterer gets more money from booze than from food.

But I really doubt that presenting a rifle to somebody would come under the meaning of the law. The purpose is to avoid the bad mix of drunks'n'handguns.
 
You can contact TABC to request a determination as to the validity of the sign. If the hall depends on the caterer's license and does not have their own the sign is probably not valid.
 
Do I dare go to a police station and ask for them to clarify the law.

Unless the hall is owned by the police, I don't know why you would contact them. Talk to the management agency that rented the hall to you and ask them to take it down.
 
Agreed with the meaning of the law. I've been reading the TABC and Texas Penal Code info and it is all very poorly written. The term "weapon" and "concealed handgun" are used interchangeably. As I understand it the 51% Sign rule covers concealed handguns, according to Texas Penal Code 30.06. So why do they official TABC signs say "weapon"?

http://ftp.tabc.state.tx.us/publications/brochures/weapons51.pdf

weapons51.pdf
 
As I understand the OP, this is a private social gathering.

The issue is not that of carrying in the CHL sense. It's about presentation of a gift in what for that day is a non-business venue.
 
As long as you have a contract from the owner, giving you the right to use the facility as you see fit, you should be immune from his business practices, and any rules governing the use of something you don't even have the intent of doing.
It's just the space you rented right?
 
Correct that we rented the space, it is just the space we rented, an we don't have alcohol present or available on the premises. I think we're OK because alcohol isn't available, but otherwise the 51% rule seems to apply regardless of who rents the premises or how they are used.
 
Our local VFW hall has a 51% sign because most of their normal revenue is from beer sales, not food. We rented it for a wedding reception but beer was served so I didn't argue with them about it. I would call TABC and . Can't hurt.
 
Armybrat - that is exactly why I'm asking the question.

All went well. The evening was a private retirement party for an individual that we presented with a very nice lever-action rifle. I wanted to be within the gun laws, which explains all of my questions.

The funny part was going through the door with the box, which I had folded over the manufacturer label, and the doorman still recognized the stamp on the box. He later came to our event, and along with the wait staff was very impressed with the rifle.

Have I mentioned I love being around reasonable people who can appreciate a firearm for what it is?
 
You, as renter, can remove the sign (or cover it) since you're not doing booze sales as a business.

This would be dependent on the conditions of the lease as possibly technical aspects of the law. The business in which the sign is posted is still making 51% or more from sales of alcohol even if during one event it is not being sold. Part of that business' business is the leasing of the facility and so the sign may still apply.
 
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