CZ52 9mm barrel source?

The only place I've seen them in the past few years has been on Gunbroker every once in a great while. More commonly someone lists a CZ 52 with both barrels.

Get yourself a hardened firing pin from Harrington Products if you're going to rely on the CZ 52 for HD/SD, if you haven't done so already. A pair of hardened rollers would be a good idea too.

It's up to you, but I would never rely on the importer-installed decocker, regardless of how sound it seems. As for the choice between the two, a broken firing pin -- and it's a matter of when, not if, if you shoot the gun regularly -- would be a much bigger issue in a self-defense situation. You could always decock the gun by placing the little finger of your non-shooting hand between the hammer and the firing pin as you lower the hammer to eliminate the chance of accidentally dropping the hammer from the fully-cocked position.

JohnnytheRipper said:

Importer installed? Interesting. I was under the impression it was original to the gun, but it goes to show how little I've studied this particular gun and handguns in general.

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I might actually be misremembering. The various importers of the Tokarev pistols had to have aftermarket safeties installed in order to meet the import requirements of the Gun Control Act of 1968. The CZ's safety might be original, though -- but still of poor design. I'll look it up again.

Edit: Ignore my misinformation. The CZ safety is original, though of poor design. Don't know how I got that mixed up.

AustinTX said:

I might actually be misremembering. The various importers of the Tokarev pistols had to have aftermarket safeties installed in order to meet the import requirements of the Gun Control Act of 1968. The CZ's safety might be original, though -- but still of poor design. I'll look it up again.

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Don't you just love it when gun laws make guns less safe.

Lucky Derby said:

Don't you just love it when gun laws make guns less safe.

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Seriously. The Tokarev safeties are a total eyesore as well. I saw a post a long time ago from someone on TFL who had removed the safeties on his Toks and machined and blued a steel pin of sorts that very neatly plugged the holes that had been drilled out for the safety. I wish that was something that was commercially available. I've seen a lot of other efforts that don't look much better than the safeties they replaced, and I'm certainly no machinist myself. Would love to tear out the safeties on mine, though.

I bought my CZ-52 around 10 years ago and 9mm barrels had dried up back then. They seem to be rare as hens teeth now. I have a saved search on Gunbroker that emails me when one shows up. They're getting less and less frequent. Just the barrel shows up every few months and then tends to pull in ~$200 or more.

It doesn't make make much economic sense to me to buy the barrels at the price they're going for now. You can afford a budget whole 9mm gun like the M70A or SAR B6P for about the same price.

There were at least 2 fairly recently on E-Bay.

Can't speak to the manufacturer or quality but they were there. And for all those poo-poohers on gun shows, last week end at the Glendale Stadium show here in Arizon - 1 fella had 1 and another had 2 barrels. I bought one to get it chrome lined.

IMO you wanting a 9mm barrel only because some day you might run out of 7.62 Tokarev ammo is something not worth worrying about. Over the current shortage 9mm ammo was not available but 7.62 Tokarev was. I bought a case of something like 880 rounds a year or so back and cases are still available.

If 7.62 Tokarev ammo becomes unavailable we will be having more problems than worrying about replacing it with 9mm ammo. (IMO of course)

Sorry I can't help with finding a barrel, they have been getting harder to find.

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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_89/1334661_cz_52_factory_barrels___surplus_.html

I read on the military surpluses forum ( almost 6 yrs ago.) That the primary maker of the 9MM barrels stopped for liability reasons. What liability?? seems it was the fad to take the 9MM barrel and rechamber it for 9X21, a very easy job that just takes a few minutes however way too much pressure for these guns, The CZ 52 ( or VZ 52 if you want to confuse it with the rifle ) is a unique design but it is not a super gun and it is sure not the strongest design nor was the metallurgy designed for such pressure. Even using standard Tok ammo the guns have a history of cracked slides. I have a 9MM barrel because I reload the 9MM and I enjoy shooting it. Now this is just my opinion and like bely buttons, every one has one. Unless I lived by myself and my house was isolated out by itself I would be very careful using a 7.62X25 for a house gun. the bullet has a tendency to go thought walls and then more walls and impacting where you don't want it to impact. But that is just my opinion.

People have said the barrels were too thin, but if you think about it, the thin part of the barrel isn't past the neck of the chamber, so, what thin barrel?

TCB

The decocker is original to the CZ52 as made 1952-1954. It is not an add-on. However, the original firing pins are cast steel. The most commonly replaced parts for these guns are the firing pin and the spring clip that holds the grip panels in place. I recommend no dry firing, and even if you use the decocker, I would recommend lowering the hammer by using the thumb. The safety block and the firing pin can become worn; these guns are all at least 60 years old and should be treated as curio and relic. (I shoot mine in modern military match and have carried it on the mountain.)

Interestingly, 9mm Luger is the orginal chambering for vz.52 and it was rechambered later.
Submachine gun vz.48 (Sa 23/24/25/26) met the same fate.

Bohemus said:

Interestingly, 9mm Luger is the orginal chambering for vz.52 and it was rechambered later.
Submachine gun vz.48 (Sa 23/24/25/26) met the same fate.

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That's the FIRST TIME I've ever heard that claim. Do you have a source for that historical bit? That would have made a 9mm CZ-52 the only weapon in the Soviet Bloc/Warsaw Pact using 9mm ammo.

(The later CZ-75 was designed to shoot 9mm, but it was never intended for military use in the East... and the Western Embargo of Communist products severely limited its sales to the West.

There were some factory/armory conversions to 9MM and these few were on the market at one time, but I also was under the impression that the CZ52 was designed from the git-go in 7.62X25??

The problem was not rechambering 9mm CZ52 aftermarket barrels to 9x21, that Italian Loophole Cartridge is loaded no hotter than 9mm P.
The hinky part came with the 9x23 Winchester which is loaded a heckofalot hotter AND thins the barrel because its chamber extends past the recoil spring shoulder.

You're right Jim, the 9X23 was the cartridge I was thinking about.

The M23 and 25 SMGs were in 9x19mm before being modified to be the M24 was made in 7.62x25.

Keep in mind they had their own propriatory rifle cartridge the 7.62x45 as well.

I do not know if the Vz52 was initially 9x19 mm or notbut

Frankonia offered them in 9x19mm in 1975 in west Germany.

As I could not import them I did not buy one.

-kBob

Let me know if you find a source. I have 2 52's i would love to convert to 9mm

Bud's Gun Shop and Cheaper Than Dirt have the 9 mm M70A Tokarev for $200 or so. That might be the easiest solution. If the barrels are $200 or close to it, you would end up with a weapon in both calibers for the same amount.

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/cz-52-replacement-barrel?a=407951
http://www.gunpartswarehouse.com/pistol-parts/cz-52-pistol.html barrel tool
http://harringtonproducts.com/

http://forums.gunboards.com/showthr...-Products-New-CZ52-barrels-in-7-62x25-and-9mm

Outside of the OP's desire to have a 9mm barrel for use in a self-defense situation, I don't really understand the appeal of having one. The fun of the CZ 52 is the loud 7.62x25mm round and the big fireball it throws.