Alliant Bullseye Price

I understand that ARCH, but i only paid the bit extra because i needed it and wasnt any around. If i was like the guys that have a few LBS sitting around but just need a few more than i agree 100% with you.

Thats not that bad IMO. Its not 1965 anymore.

I was at a Gun Show this past weekend and saw an 8lb jug of Bullseye priced at $249.99!! I figured it had to be some guy just trying to cash in on a jug he found somewhere. Then I looked up and saw a Reloading Unlimited banner overhead. These are the guys who had just about any powder you wanted during the worst of the shortage, as long as you were willing to pay for it. Check out their website. 1lb of Bullseye for $34.99. Are you kidding me?

I paid the same price for Bullseye at my local Bass Pro last month. Seems to be the going rate there now. New to reloading and I couldn't get started cuz I couldn't find any powder. Ifelt lucky to even find it. Since then I have got #4 Power Pistol and 2 #1 BE=86 from Recobs.

ArchAngelCD said:

$5 may not kill you but it harms everyone else. The more people are willing to pay the higher the prices will be. Personally I refuse to pay more than $25 and I'm not happy with that either.

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I agree 100%.

Some distributors are getting powder and selling it now at under 20 bucks per pound for single pounds and around 16 bucks per pound for 4/8 pound jugs. If they can do it, the rest can do it. Places selling for close to $30 bucks a pound are making sales because someone will pay it. If people quit caving to jacked up prices, it will go down.

I was in the Nashville BPS last week and they probably didn't have 10 lbs total and it was ridiculously priced at over $30 per lb. I just chuckled and walked away. Ya'll do know that reloaders are at the bottom of the feed trough, they make a lot more selling finished ammo than selling components. I wouldn't be surprised to see reloading be out of business in 10-20 years if something isn't changed. My $0.02

I paid $28.99 for 1# of Bullseye today at the local BPS.
Since I only started reloading a year ago, that is normal price for me.
Everyone hasn't been reloading forever and accumulated bunches of powder for $5 or $10 a pound.
Some of us have to take what we can get.

Originally Posted by ArchAngelCD View Post
$5 may not kill you but it harms everyone else. The more people are willing to pay the higher the prices will be. Personally I refuse to pay more than $25 and I'm not happy with that either.

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CPE said

I agree 100%. Some distributors are getting powder and selling it now at under 20 bucks per pound for single pounds and around 16 bucks per pound for 4/8 pound jugs. If they can do it, the rest can do it. Places selling for close to $30 bucks a pound are making sales because someone will pay it. If people quit caving to jacked up prices, it will go down.

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"If people quit caving to jacked up prices, it will go down"..Boy people like to trot that line out. You guys remind me of my grandma. The thing is, it's not always that simple.

Potatohead said:

CPE said

"If people quit caving to jacked up prices, it will go down"..Boy people like to trot that line out. You guys remind me of my grandma. The thing is, it's not always that simple.

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So what you're saying is, it's OK to use supply and demand when you want to but if you don't like the scenario supply and demand is something that you "trot out?"

It's a fact with any commodity if it's not being bought because the buyers feel the price is too high the seller will drop the price. (or get stuck storing a lot of product)

It's probably not the time or the place but I just see so many people on here that act like they know what each retailer is paying. If the powder companies are anything similar to my line of work, they price in tiers. Just because Company A is paying the powder folks 19.99 per lb, doesn't necessarily mean that Company B is paying 19.99 also. Maybe Im wrong and you guys know something I don't, but one of our customers may pay such and such for a carton of iceberg lettuce and another customer may pay 3$ more. It all depends on the deals that have been struck, and the way we, or our customers have structured purchasing their products through us. (Go ahead and chuckle, I sell wholesale fruits and veggies, I know it's not quite the Chicago Commodity Exchange )

It's a fact with any commodity if it's not being bought because the buyers feel the price is too high the seller will drop the price. (or get stuck storing a lot of product)

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Yes but you're trying to suggest manipulating the system through sheer willpower to drop the prices. You're not going to have much effect. People will pay what they will pay.

What you're suggesting would be like going to an auction and corralling everyone together to suggest nobody bids more than $100 on anything that way we all get good deals. The thing is once it hits $100 SOMEBODY is going to think to themselves "You know what . . . I don't mind paying $125" and raise their hand. Then the whole system crumbles.

The market is alive and well. They may be selling things for more than we'd LIKE to pay as a group, but they're selling things at what we WILL pay.

People will pay what they will pay.

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Yep. $30 is a lot to one guy, but simply chump change to another. Reminds of the hair-brained scheme I heard on the radio a few years back; "If everyone will not buy gasoline on Tuesdays, the price will go down". Yeah, sure.

Don

.001 cents per grain assuming 7000gr/lb. if powder was $20 and now is $30. I could be wrong

.0014 more per grain at $30 technically

Im comfortable buying a LB up to 30$. Especially if Im buying local, considering when I buy online I have to pay a hazmat. (yes I know if I "spread" the hazmat between 20,000 primers and 45 LBs of powder I would "save" money)

Remember these retailers have to pay haz mat fees also. The online guys may get a pallet full of powder and pay $.50 a lbs while the little local guy may only get 5-10 lbs at a time and be paying several dollars per lbs shipping and hazmat fees. The local guy here says he gets what they send at a time and has no control over how much at a time.

I don't begrudge the little mom n' pop gun store when they charge $30 for powder, but my "LGS" is one of the PSA stores. Their powder prices are fair (what little they have), but their price of $37.95/1000 for CCI primers is a bit ridiculous. Even the little guys don't charge that much in many cases.

Hard question to ask. You could probably get it from somewhere you have to ship it from for under $25, say $18. But you add the hazmat fee and shipping, you're over $45. The local store is looking to make a profit, not sure much overhead they have to have, but unless they can get the max order for Bullseye, they'll have to charge more.

$28 isn't the best, but it's not the worst. If it makes you happy, that's what matters, especially if you're about to run out of powder.

LGS has two pounds of it right now. $30 per pound. Powder is difficult to find locally. I would be fine paying that price if I needed it.

grogetr said:

Remember these retailers have to pay haz mat fees also. The online guys may get a pallet full of powder and pay $.50 a lbs while the little local guy may only get 5-10 lbs at a time and be paying several dollars per lbs shipping and hazmat fees. The local guy here says he gets what they send at a time and has no control over how much at a time.

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Makes sense. I'd wager that quite a few of the smaller guys probably end up paying around the same price that you and I pay at Powder Valley, Recobs, etc. And I'd prefer those smaller guys stay in business because it sure is nice to be able to pick up this and that around town. There's nothing quite like waiting on FedEx for 4 days for decapping pins or a cleaning rod.

I sometimes can get powder from a manufacturer at an employee price. Three years ago, I was paying under 12 bucks a pound. I got hooked up at 15 bucks a pound last month. I would guess that is close to what wholesalers pay.

OP, my personal barometer for powder is around the $30 mark as well. Yes, when I find it online and can make a large enough order to offset the hazmat I can get it for much less, but locally anything 30 or less is fine with me.

ColtPythonElite said:

I sometimes can get powder from a manufacturer at an employee price. Three years ago, I was paying under 12 bucks a pound. I got hooked up at 15 bucks a pound last month. I would guess that is close to what wholesalers pay.

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It would be really interesting to see what everyone was paying. We could then (somewhat) establish where the market is, or where it should be. Hell, we're probably all wrong. Myself, I'd be shocked if anyone in the supply chain was anywhere close to doubling their money per unit sold (1 LB). Even though he's a few years removed from it, and things may have changed a lot since then, I'd like ReloadRon to weigh in on it. I do believe he has some experience here , and could possibly tell us if the margins on a LB of powder back then were decent ,robust, or non existent.

Potatohead said:

It would be really interesting to see what everyone was paying.....

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Tater, I just bought a container of True Blue for $24.95 + tax. My LGS sells the majority of their small containers & 1#'s in the $21 ~ $28 range (except VihtaVuori).
$30 + tax for 1K CCI SPP.

Potatohead,

It would be really interesting to see what everyone was paying. We could then (somewhat) establish where the market is, or where it should be...

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I pay $21.00 at a LGS for 1 lb of Bullseye.

An 8 lb jug goes for $125.00 (that gets it down to about $15.62 per lb).