FFL

Midwest It used to be a $1 a year under the Federal Firearms Act of 1938

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Which would be around $17 in 2015 dollars I believe.

If $90 for a three year renewal was to much, I doubt you were really engaging in the business of dealing firearms.

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It was the high $$$$ fees in the 80s that did it

oneounceload

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If $90 for a three year renewal was to much, I doubt you were really engaging in the business of dealing firearms.

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It was the high $$$$ fees in the 80s that did it

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What "high $$$$ fees in the 80s"????
It wasn't any more then than it is now.

But the income levels were a LOT less so proportionally it was a lot more......

This is what an FFL looked like in 1940. (Called a FFA back then).


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If $90 for a three year renewal was to much, I doubt you were really engaging in the business of dealing firearms.

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I rarely sold any guns. Mostly I did rebluing and minor repairs. I didn't quit because of the price of the license (county license to sell long guns was $80 and $300 to sell handguns)which was still $10. I quit because it took all of my time.

dogtown tom said:

It's not an application fee. There is no application fee for an FFL, just the license fee.

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If that were true, the ATF would need to stop calling it an application fee.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/apply-license

The application must be accompanied by the proper application fee, which you can pay by check, credit card or money order {we do not accept cash). Once the application fee is processed, the FFLC will enter your application information...

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The application form itself...

https://www.atf.gov/file/61506/download

I am Paying the Application Fee for the Following Person, Corporation, or Partnership:

Total Application Fees: $


4. In most cases, ATF will contact you prior to issuance of a license. If you do not qualify for a license, you will be advised in writing of the reasons for denial and your application fee will be returned.

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TimSr said:

In the late 80-mid 90's I had an FFL for Curios and Relics ... the cons, when I gave up my FFL I had to send my books into the ATF

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There is no such requirement for a C&R FFL. From the ATF:

(G8) Are licensed collectors required to turn in their acquisition/disposition records to ATF if their collector’s license is not renewed or they discontinue their collecting activity?

No. The GCA requires the delivery of required records to the Government within 30 days after a firearms “business” is discontinued. A license as a collector of curios or relics does not authorize any business with respect to firearms. Therefore, the records required to be kept by licensed collectors under the law and regulations are not business records and are not required to be turned in to ATF when collectors' licenses are not renewed or collecting activity under such licenses is discontinued.

[18 U.S.C. 923(g)(4), 27 CFR 478.127]

CoRoMo

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Originally Posted by dogtown tom View Post
It's not an application fee. There is no application fee for an FFL, just the license fee.

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If that were true, the ATF would need to stop calling it an application fee.

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Let me phrase it this way.....there is no fee to apply for a Federal firearms License, ATF has you send in payment of $200 for the first three years. Further, ATF does not refer to the renewal fee as a "reapplication fee" do they?

In nearly ever common usage of the term "application fee" it implies that there is a nonrefundable fee merely for submitting an application.
Whether ATF calls it a deposit, form fee, filing fee, application fee is immaterial.

If you want me to start pointing out the other dozens of errors, misinformation and illogic on the ATF website I'll be happy to do so.

TimSr said:

In the late 80-mid 90's I had an FFL for Curios and Relics. I was greatly limited in what kinds of guns I could purchase through it, and everything I brought into my collection via this FFL, I had to log through the books. I did not log previously owned guns, or guns I purchased through regular channels as an individual NOT using my FFL. The pros, I got some great deals on collectibles. the cons, when I gave up my FFL I had to send my books into the ATF, and even though we have all these government protections, I have little faith that the fact I used to hold an FFL does not immediately pop up when any federal agency wants to have a look at me, and fear that a future ban on anything that went through my books would get a federal rear end probe.

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You do not use an FFL, you have an FFL. Any firearm purchased that is classified as Curio & Relic should be logged in the bound book. It doesn't matter if you meet a guy at the Walmart parking lot to buy his pre-64 Winchester, or you fill out a 4473 at the local gun shop for a Spanish Mauser.
You are correct that you didn't have to log previously owned firearms.