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new norinco's here in canada are all forged A500 steel... better stuff than 4140. accuracy is generally the same for mil spec. also no such thing as MIM parts for the new norinco stuff... their bad rep is out of date... like 80's hyundai VS 2011 hyundai.... huge improvements but still not a...

S&W 1911 forged stainless everything!!

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rellascout said " What sounds Chinese about mass producing something consumers want? If that is Chinese then the US was the China of the day after WWII. " sorry i think you misunderstood my post a bit.. i was speaking of gunsmith's vs smiff's these days...and MY experience with them...

let me start with the fact that i have taken courses (mechanical engineering in college) and have great experience with what i am about to say.... but am no university professor on metrology in machining. there are different types of "FIT", http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering_tolerance...

I dont know anyone on this board yet as I'm too new... but that being said... there is a lot of gun elitists out there (in th world not just web) I have a friend of mine who spouts about how spending less than $1-2k on a gun is a waste and or "for losers" this from a guy who doesn't own...